Blue, BLue, BLUE!

[Katharine]

Why is it that people throw a can of paint at something and call it "RESTORED"? Been looking on Ebay, and local ads for manuals, implements and other bits and so many of them LIE....... It's plain to see in their own pictures that they couldn't even bother to mask anything off before they tore the lid off the blue paint can, closed their eyes and sloshed it at the poor undeserving pile of junk. Why does EVERY single thing on the bloody tractor have to be BLUE, it didn't come that way surely. The gauges, generators, mufflers, grilles, brackets and entire light assemblies etc... WERE NOT all susposed to be painted BLUE people!
Sorry, just had to vent a bit... (I admit, even mine is screwed up, but at least I DIDN'T do it and can fix it!)

 

[old]

Well see thats the thing. Theres not true meaning as far as restore and tractors. Some people think if you paint one its restored and others say you need to bring it back up to what it was when new and others some where in between. To me if its restored it has to be taken all apart and any thing not as it was when new is replaced so its as good as new or better. I my self never restore but I do fix some up to look good
Hobby farm

 

[old art]

is the one you got worth the added money to fixup to what you realy want. do it and you will know what you have a machine that will give you good service. it is hard to bite the bulit.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I've noticed the overspray on tires and things, it's one thing to freshen up the paint, but don't call it restored if it has not been gone through like Old mentioned. This is one of those subjects there is widely varied opinion on.

There ought to be a standardized and or certifiable description arrangement for the honest sellers at least, like a check sheet that describes various conditions, something the seller signs off on, say you have a good runner, and really want it to look good, but no need to disassemble it like a ground up restoration or want to honestly describe any combination thereof, ground up, partial restoration, major component work or just list exactly what has been done if anything, and or just state drug out of weeds with new paint LOL ! I'm sure my rationale is like the proverbial urinating in the wind, as you've either got an honest seller or you don't, but the overspray on the tires and things, I'll agree on that, and although it's just paint, it says a lot about who did it I suppose, sometimes it's just better to leave well alone, they are not at all bad when in their "work clothes" let the buyer do the finishing, at least you don't get the feeling the new and fresh paint is there to mask things.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Well,
I do understand your frustration.
But it isn't the color is it?
I mean, I have a couple of those BLUE tractors that I actually like quite a bit.
Of course the tires and hoses are black and the wheels are gray and the grill is silver and the carb and starter and wires and the PS lines are unpainted...
I got a pair of Converse All Stars that I wear sometimes when I'm riding them.
They're just about the same color BLUE.
Don't give up on it yet.

 

[Aaron Ford]

The used car market used to suffer from rattle can rebuilds. Same thing...

What bugs me is that paint sells. Not hard parts, not machine work, but paint. The biggest POS goes for top dollar if it looks good. This is likely due to the fact that we buyers see that and beleive that if someone went to this much trouble to paint it, they must have fixed everything first. Problem is that they do not. I saw a fella in Ripley, WV bondo over calcium corrosion on a set of wheels to sell the tractor. He also bondoed over the air inlet on an MF50 because he did not want to spend the money on the hood ornament.... Oh well...

Better day tomorrow, Aaron

 

[Anonymous-0]

Hi Katharine, for several years now i have had a saying for poorly painted tractors, It met the spraygun at the crossroads. MJ

 

[Anonymous-0]

When tractors were assembled at the factory everything was painted color of tractor including wiring, hoses, starter, generators, brackets. If sheet metel was different color it was painted seperately then install on tractor.

It has been a known fact that "looks" sell. How many times have you gone to a car lot and looked at the car with dents, scratches in paint, torn or stained interior, smooth and or weather checked tires? This is the main reason dealers and others hire individauls to detail their vehicles, be it autos,tractors or other equipment!!

We the American consumer, have brought this on ourselves."HAS TO LOOK GOOD"...Buyer beware!!!!

Just my rant early in the morn...

Keith & Shawn

 

[rrlund]

This has opened up a can of worms on here more than once as to what restored means. I've said all along,don't advertise something as restored if it's just a repaint. I've said too if you advertise something as restored and I haul a trailer 100 miles to find something with parts missing,dinged and dented and painted with a barn broom,don't expect me to be friendly and smiling when I walk away.

 

[Anonymous-0]

We all know if we completely restore and rebuild the tractor, we will never get our money back!!!So the jockys dont overhaul them,they just do a driveby paint job.We cant even afford to paint it after a full restoration $$$$. That brings on "JUST THE PAINT JOB" rebuild. these guys probably dont even know how to overhaul a tractor. It sure does seperate the men from the boys when selecting and buying good(toys) tractor.

 

[Anonymous-0]

A $50 bucket of paint is the best investment you can make on a tractor if you're planning on selling it. A paint job can bring hundreds, even thousands without fixing a single thing. Most people who've been around tractors can see past the shine. Oil dripping, smoke bellowing, strange noises, odd parts, and things just not working right are the first things to look at. Looks are the last thing that REALLY matters.

I've also seen tractors for sale by owners who really seriously think they've done an excellent job of restoring one, but they haven't touched to important items. The paint looked good but the clutch slips. The seat cushion is new but the hydraulics are weak. A new grill and a leaky radiator. When I see new paint, I get super critical over the smallest of detail. New paint usually means a higher price. If anyone expects more money, the mechanics better be above average.

First time buyers or relatively inexperienced buyers are drawn in by shine. And many sellers know that. If it appears that the seller is targeting unknowing buyers with fast paint job, it almost stands to reason there IS something to hide.

 

[Walt Davies]

Why not use the same terminology as the car restores use.
1. Frame off restoration.
2. Some original, repainted
3. Paint job.
4. All original (condition as you see it)
5. basket case.

Walt

 

[Pair-a-dice farm]

You are right....When we were Teenagers if a friend tried to set us up with a girl that had "A real good personality" we turned it down. But if they said she was built we were ready to go. Same applies with tractors, cars, trucks ect...

 

[rrlund]

I heard two dealers talking at the sale in Archbold one time. One of them said there's no bigger sucker for paint than a farmer. The list I'd use to catagorize them though would be restored,reconditioned,repainted and original,and I guess you can throw in that basket case term too,a lot of times they have new paint too though.

 

[joe zip]

And just think of the environmental hazard of wasting all that paint. What does your husband say about it?

 

[Katharine]

He says YOU'RE an IDIOT! HA, HA, HA!!!!!