carburetion

merbeau

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Started my TO30 and after a few minutes it died. Tested all electrical and checked out ok. Cleaned gas bowl and then turned on stop cock and gas entered bowl. No start. Then took off gas lead to carburetor and gas flowed out the gas line. Then removed spark pug and it was dry. So the problem perhaps is in the carburetor. Is there a jet that can become closed or a diaphragm that can leak. Also is the rebuilt one on the parts part of this site the correct one.

Thanks

Robert
 
There is a bolt on the underneath side of the carb bowl. Remove that bolt and gas should stream out... if not I d say your float is sticking, or your float bowl needle seat is stuck shut. Easy fix either way.
 
there should be a screen attached to the brass fitting where the fuel enters the carburetor, I have seen them clogged up - loosen the fuel line and unscrew the fitting to remove and examine -
 
A quick check for fuel availability, remove the coil wire from the distributor and ground it. Remove the air cleaner hose from the carb. Hold your hand tightly over the air inlet of the carb, crank the engine through. You should get a strong, steady vacuum. No vacuum, or intermittent vacuum/blowing is indication of valve problems.

Your hand should be wet with gas. No gas, either no gas in the carb bowl, or the main jet is clogged.

Like K.Campbell said, with the fuel valve open, plenty of fuel in the tank, remove the drain plug, be ready to catch the flow in a clean glass.

It should flow a full stream, then slow to a trickle as the bowl empties. If it slows to a drip, or stops flowing, there is not enough fuel getting into the carb bowl.

There should be a screen in the fuel inlet fitting at the carb, be sure it is clean.

Look at what was caught in the glass. If it's cloudy, there is water in the tank. If dirty, rust chunks, the tank is contaminated and will need to be removed and rinsed out with E85. Whatever is in the glass will also be in the carb. It may need to be eased apart and cleaned out. Not necessarily a kit, just carefully open it, try not tear the gasket, clean it out with spray cleaner.

Also be sure the gas cap is vented. Be sure the choke is closing fully.

Be sure the air cleaner is clean and free of mud dobber nests, mouse nests. There is also a wire mesh inside the canister that is commonly overlooked. If severely clogged it will have to be removed and washed or replaced. Not easy, but has to be done occasionally.
 
Shoot a little starting fluid in the intake of the carb.,if it fires and runs for a few seconds it's between the inlet of the carb. and the inlet of the intake
manifold.May be a plugged main jet.
 
One more thing, you asked about the replacement carb...

That should only be a last resort. The original carb is easily repaired as long as nothing is broken.

If you do go with a replacement, the rebuilt carb is better than the new.

The new ones are aftermarket fit-all. Not the same quality or fit as the original.
 
(quoted from post at 01:21:28 05/03/19) There is a bolt on the underneath side of the carb bowl. Remove that bolt and gas should stream out... if not I d say your float is sticking, or your float bowl needle seat is stuck shut. Easy fix either way.

Thanks to all that replied. I will start with the easiest first and go forward.

Again, many thanks to all the great comments. Greatly appreciated.
 

Removed the nut underneath the carburetorand gas flowed out freely with no stoppage. I also checked the gas line filter (screen) and it is not clogged.

Took the bottom bowl from the air filter out and oil looked ok and t did not look full of 'gunk'. I had cleaned the whole unit last year with mineral spirits.

So I guess it is perhaps looking like a clogged jet. Will do the next step.

Robert
 
(quoted from post at 04:30:26 05/03/19) A quick check for fuel availability, remove the coil wire from the distributor and ground it. Remove the air cleaner hose from the carb. Hold your hand tightly over the air inlet of the carb, crank the engine through. You should get a strong, steady vacuum. No vacuum, or intermittent vacuum/blowing is indication of valve problems.

Your hand should be wet with gas. No gas, either no gas in the carb bowl, or the main jet is clogged.

Like K.Campbell said, with the fuel valve open, plenty of fuel in the tank, remove the drain plug, be ready to catch the flow in a clean glass.

It should flow a full stream, then slow to a trickle as the bowl empties. If it slows to a drip, or stops flowing, there is not enough fuel getting into the carb bowl.

There should be a screen in the fuel inlet fitting at the carb, be sure it is clean.

Look at what was caught in the glass. If it's cloudy, there is water in the tank. If dirty, rust chunks, the tank is contaminated and will need to be removed and rinsed out with E85. Whatever is in the glass will also be in the carb. It may need to be eased apart and cleaned out. Not necessarily a kit, just carefully open it, try not tear the gasket, clean it out with spray cleaner.

Also be sure the gas cap is vented. Be sure the choke is closing fully.

Be sure the air cleaner is clean and free of mud dobber nests, mouse nests. There is also a wire mesh inside the canister that is commonly overlooked. If severely clogged it will have to be removed and washed or replaced. Not easy, but has to be done occasionally.

Ok, I did find a strong vacuum when placing my hand over the inlet from the breather. There was gas on the spark plug. Looks like a clogged jet. How do you remove the carburetor? Probably will try a rebuilt kit.

Tnanks

Robert
 
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Went to tractor supply store and purchased some degreasing fluid and cleaned carburetor till the two mounting studs/nuts were exposed. Removed carburetor and rebuilt the carburetor with the comprehensive kit available from this site. I also purchased the shop manual for the carburetor. Another person replied to carb's initial settings and remounted the carburetor. Ended up taking it off so I could reinstall the choke and throttle linkages. After reinstalling the unit, cranked the tractor and it started. After running adjusted the needle valves till running smoothly.

After removing the old carburetor I noticed a set screw on the bottom of the carburetor. During rebuild it was obvious this would allow a small wire to be inserted into the jet to clean it.

Thanks to everyone again for the help.

Robert
 
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