Case 830

[Toland88]

Yesterday I started 65 case 830ck up to go pull some logs for firewood went inside and put bibs on came out and coolant was pissing out of radiator cap. Tightened the belts up they were a little lose and started back up and intantly started leaking.. just wanted someone's opinion I thought the thermostat might be stuck closed but I'm not the most mechanically smart person either

 

[motoOzarks]

Out of the cap or out of overflow

 

[motoOzarks]

Out of the cap or out of overflow

 

[Toland88]

It was coming from the cap

 

[motoOzarks]

Out of the cap or out of overflow

 

[Adirondack case guy]

How low a temp is your anti-freeze set for.
Loren

 

[Toland88]

I'm not sure I would assume 180

 

[Adirondack case guy]

I was referring to the freezing point of your anti-freeze. Maybe it was not low enough and your coolant froze up.
Loren

 

[kevinthefixer]

There are just too many possible causes. Easiest thing would be an overfilled system with no overflow tank, next easiest a bad cap. Worst case I can think of would be cracked block and head due to the incorrect antifreeze solution that Loren mentioned, has the tractor been winterized? BTW a 50% antifreeze solution boils at a higher temperature as well as freezes lower, and if it's good quality also has corrosion inhibitors in it, so it's a good idea to run it year-round.

 

[olgentdc]

thermostat sticking, over filled radiator, cracked head allowing compression to push water out of radiator , not enough antifreeze= iced up radiator rods not allowing flow ,assuming it is below freezing where you are . i think you have a lot to learn . sadly, I bet You are working alone, and worse , never HAD anyone to teach you.There, Except for Me Go I . You never learn without asking and experiencing pitfalls . Trouble Is and Please this is a General Observation and not a personal attack , No One Knows how to do anything these days .Around here , No One knows how to weld ! i was raised by a tuf Dad Who fought his way across the pacific and lost blood from his wounds so we could all be free . he survived,and taught us all to survive, .He Forgot the WAR but Not the LESSONS He LEARNED. He loved mom and they raised 8 of us the hard way in the hardscrabble days. They stayed married even though many times and fortunately at different times in their life they each wanted to quit on one another.But they stuk . And they taught us to stik . there was no reset button that allowed mom to find another man to play the (Dad role )for us innocent kids . These days there are so many kids that are raised by their moms with no dad allowed in the picture . And Its Sad, because no one knows how to be the man and learn the bare necessities . I just Hope That I Dont Run You Off. and you DO keep coming back to learn and ask questions . BECAUSE It is not YOUR fault ,Respectfully , we are all a victim of modern society 's rot./////way too much said ,, only because of something stupidthat happened down the road here , and i need to vent. Btw , Just got To Say I have had my tail kiked a few times too , but i keep comin back to the rodeo .

 

[1370rod]

If the engine was not warm or hot yet there would be a good chance of a cylinder compression leak forcing forcing out coolant. Typically a gasket or head leak. Fill radiator ,start engine and look for bubbles in coolant. Or put under load with cap off, if coolant pushes out imeadiately , a leak is very possible. Rod.

 

[Toland88]

It had bubbles right after I filled it then it settled down. It ran good all summer not needing any fluids then all of the sudden it did that.first time I have used it in cold weather

 

[Bruce from Can.]

I remember a old car that I had, as a kid. Coolant was green, but I never tested it to see just how cold a temperature it was good for. Drove it to school one morning in January, and it boiled over in the parking lot, outside temperature was 0 F. Took the rad cap off and there was slushy stuff in the rad. So I addpure antifreeze to the rad, and let the car idle and it did circulated and mix the coolant. I got lucky, the coolant had only frozen in the thin lines in the radiator, and couldn?t circulate. The warm coolant from the engine came into the rad and boiled out the overflow as the tank was overfilled. Maybe you have had a similar experience

 

[John Saeli]

Is your 830 gas or diesel?

 

[Toland88]

Diesel

 

[Toland88]

Update: ordered new thermostat and cap installed them put brand new 50/50 coolant in it started her up and watched fluid level. From ignition at idle there were bubbles and after about 2 minutes still at idle the fluid level started to climb untill going into overflow tube.. Any suggest would be awesome. Would it be possible just a gasket or would there be something wrong in a cylinder? I reved it up a little bit and the same amount of bubbles appear..

 

[kevinthefixer]

Sorry no good news here. Only way to tell exactly what's wrong at this point is to tear it down and examine everything. Hopefully some of the gurus here will give you more things to look for, but you're certainly going to have to remove the cylinder head and oil pan. I'd read over the manual, maybe twice, before tearing down an unfamiliar diesel, they can be tricky.

 

[kevinthefixer]

Sorry may have jumped the gun there--did you make sure you had the air pocket out of it? 2 minutes idling won't even start to warm up a diesel to operating temp. If there's an air bubble in the motor it'll cause the symptoms you describe. Maybe someone has a trick to bleed the air on that particular motor?

 

[Toland88]

No I just figured the continuous air
bubbles and rising fluid was a leak
somewhere

 

[kevinthefixer]

When the coolant is drained, or leaks out, or boils out or..., the thermostat can trap a bubble of air below it, and of course it won't open until hot water gets to it, which can't happen because there's a bubble, catch-22. Look for a bypass hose, if your motor has one you should be able to loosen or pop off the high end of it and bleed the air out that way while filling the radiator. Or remove the thermostat again and fill until that cavity is flooded, reinstall the t-stat and hose, top off and try again. Sorry I don't know anything about that exact machine, I can only give general mechanical advice here.

 

[John Saeli]

Does the 830 get ether?

 

[rfdmn]

To help troubleshoot the source of the leak you could remove the water manifold and disconnect the fan belts and refill with coolant to the level of the top of the heads. Start the engine and check each port for bubbles. This might narrow down the source of the leak.