Case round balers?

[Speed150mph]

Hey all,

I’m a small time hobby farmer with about 80 acres of hay land, and am looking to upgrade to a newer round baler, since my 70s era Vermeer 605C is worn out and seems like it drops as much hay as it bales, plus the old pull rope twine bar is getting old.

I was looking for a Deere 530/535, but I notice a lot of case balers on here that don’t have the green paint price markup and am curious about them. Just an FYI, my main tractor right now is a Case 830. Googling it has given me an exceptionally large range of hp requirements, so I have no idea if 65hp is enough for these. I am running mostly on flat land so don’t have to worry much about hills. Please let me know.

Option 1: An 8480 for $2100 but the owner says must sell and has already reduced price. Decent shape though they admit belts are a little worn but still makes a good bale. They say it has electric manual twine tie, and automatic chain oiler. Also comes with one large belt, one small belt, and a spare parts baler.

Option 2: 8465A for $6750. Field ready, no issues, no other details, but my understanding is they are a newer baler than the 8480 and have an automatic tie.

Option 3: 8460 with an automatic tie box for $7500. Also says field ready, and looks like it’s in slightly better shape than the 8465.


Obviously the 8480 is easier on my pocket book and seems to come with the best bang for my buck, but it’s the older of the 3, doesn’t have the auto tie, and also is the one that has worn belts. I don’t want something that I’m going to spend more time fixing or unplugging than actually baling with, so I turn to the experts here. Which is the best deal, what issues should I watch out for, and can my tractor even handle these?

 

[495man]

Hey all,

I’m a small time hobby farmer with about 80 acres of hay land, and am looking to upgrade to a newer round baler, since my 70s era Vermeer 605C is worn out and seems like it drops as much hay as it bales, plus the old pull rope twine bar is getting old.

I was looking for a Deere 530/535, but I notice a lot of case balers on here that don’t have the green paint price markup and am curious about them. Just an FYI, my main tractor right now is a Case 830. Googling it has given me an exceptionally large range of hp requirements, so I have no idea if 65hp is enough for these. I am running mostly on flat land so don’t have to worry much about hills. Please let me know.

Option 1: An 8480 for $2100 but the owner says must sell and has already reduced price. Decent shape though they admit belts are a little worn but still makes a good bale. They say it has electric manual twine tie, and automatic chain oiler. Also comes with one large belt, one small belt, and a spare parts baler.

Option 2: 8465A for $6750. Field ready, no issues, no other details, but my understanding is they are a newer baler than the 8480 and have an automatic tie.

Option 3: 8460 with an automatic tie box for $7500. Also says field ready, and looks like it’s in slightly better shape than the 8465.


Obviously the 8480 is easier on my pocket book and seems to come with the best bang for my buck, but it’s the older of the 3, doesn’t have the auto tie, and also is the one that has worn belts. I don’t want something that I’m going to spend more time fixing or unplugging than actually baling with, so I turn to the experts here. Which is the best deal, what issues should I watch out for, and can my tractor even handle these?

I think the 8480 was an old New Idea design. Fixed chamber so softcore bale. My line of thinking on something older...I want it as mechanical as possible, i.e. no sensors or circuit boards.

The 8460 and 8465A should be Hesston family.

I'd buy the nicest one in best shape. A baler is not something I want breaking down....

 

[casecollectorsc]

Hey all,

I’m a small time hobby farmer with about 80 acres of hay land, and am looking to upgrade to a newer round baler, since my 70s era Vermeer 605C is worn out and seems like it drops as much hay as it bales, plus the old pull rope twine bar is getting old.

I was looking for a Deere 530/535, but I notice a lot of case balers on here that don’t have the green paint price markup and am curious about them. Just an FYI, my main tractor right now is a Case 830. Googling it has given me an exceptionally large range of hp requirements, so I have no idea if 65hp is enough for these. I am running mostly on flat land so don’t have to worry much about hills. Please let me know.

Option 1: An 8480 for $2100 but the owner says must sell and has already reduced price. Decent shape though they admit belts are a little worn but still makes a good bale. They say it has electric manual twine tie, and automatic chain oiler. Also comes with one large belt, one small belt, and a spare parts baler.

Option 2: 8465A for $6750. Field ready, no issues, no other details, but my understanding is they are a newer baler than the 8480 and have an automatic tie.

Option 3: 8460 with an automatic tie box for $7500. Also says field ready, and looks like it’s in slightly better shape than the 8465.


Obviously the 8480 is easier on my pocket book and seems to come with the best bang for my buck, but it’s the older of the 3, doesn’t have the auto tie, and also is the one that has worn belts. I don’t want something that I’m going to spend more time fixing or unplugging than actually baling with, so I turn to the experts here. Which is the best deal, what issues should I watch out for, and can my tractor even handle these?

I bought a NH BR750 3 years ago for $4000. Best baler I've ever used. Run it with a 930 diesel. You bale till the alarm goes off, stop for it to tie, alarm rings and take off again. Bale in 5th gear, sometimes 4th in heavy hay. Love the baler...had about 4000 bales thru it when I bought it.

 

[Brendon-KS]

As 495man indicated the 8480 is a fixed chamber design that produces soft-core bales. It was similar in concept but was not directly related the the New Idea baler - the Hesston and New Idea lines didn't get merged until later. One thing to be aware of with a fixed chamber baler is that you cannot make a partial bale or vary the bale size. If you finish the field with three quarters of the chamber full you must kick that out as a loose pile since no compression takes place until the hay completely fills the chamber and you keep stuffing more in. The advantage is that the bales breath better and are less likely to get hot and spoil if put up slightly wet. For smaller acreages I would prefer a variable chamber, which the other two options you list are. All of the listed models have corresponding Hesston models so you could go to AGCO or CaseIH dealers for parts. The 8465A would be my first choice all else being equal but make certain that it has a functional monitor before agreeing to purchase.

 

[Destroked 450]

I haven’t run any of these balers but did have 2 of the earlier Hesston balers, 5540/5545
Don’t know what New Idea model compares to the 8460
8460 is same as Hesston 560 built 88-93
8465 is same as Hesston 565 built 91-97
Checking CNH parts site the press roll bearings show to be discontinued, I’d what to check with a AGCO dealer to see if the same Hesston bearings are available before committing to purchasing any of those balers
Those balers also have the narrow pickup like my old Hesston’s had, without out the gathering wheel option baling behind a vee rake is near impossible without leaving hay

 

[Newgenerationdeere]

I don’t know when hesston / case went to the automated system with a computer on the baler and one on the tractor to run it but I wouldn’t want one . The John Deere and new Holland of that age are simple machines I don’t know anything about Vermeer