Chained to a stake pocket

[CaseDC3]

What is the best way to chain to a stake pocket? I don't like being outside the rub rails. The photos are at a 45-degree angle. Two straps on the front, and a chain and binder through a clevis on the drawbar.

 

[Scott 730]

I don't see a problem with either picture. But the single chain and clevis on the drawbar is a hard NO for me. A common farm clevis and pin is not rated for load securement. Screw type shackles can be used. Nothing less than 4 point tie down for me, regardless of weight. IMO. YMMV. Flame suit on.

 

[Duner Wi]

I prefer #2.

 

[G1000VISTA]

Only problem I have when using number two is the chain hook like to come up a little when I bind the chain down. Not as tight a load securment but I use both.

 

[caterpillar guy]

I like the first one since it is pulling on the whole pocket not just one side. It also does not pull on the pocket so it can bend it like when they hook on the pocket and pull over the top like I've seen done. Which would be a third method compared to these. I also if it is the end pocket like the first one will a forth style where I come up through the pocket and hook to the opposite side so it would go under the pocket and come up through like 2 is but hook to the opposite side from the inside. I always liked hooking on the top like these since the hook if chain is loose will not fall off the hooked connection.

 

[joeysmith]

Another option

 

[Fritz Maurer]

Doesn't matter. A ratchet strap isn't going generate enough force to bend anything.

 

[showcrop]

Only problem I have when using number two is the chain hook like to come up a little when I bind the chain down. Not as tight a load securment but I use both.

FMCSAs cargo securement rules do not require rating and marking of anchor points. While the agency encourages manufacturers to rate and mark anchor points, the new rules do not include a requirement for ratings and markings.

 

[Fixingfarmer]

Another option
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those are how I got the idea for these so I can have sideboards as well. For hauling a tractor I’d probably use one with a plate mounted on top

 

[J.Wondergem]

Doesn't matter. A ratchet strap isn't going generate enough force to bend anything.

It might. I tien them down with a bar, makes them like banjo string.

 

[caterpillar guy]

By the way you guys that like straps can buy straps with about a foot of chain on the end to hook like a regular chain does without having to have a short piece of chain, for it like it looks like used in the first picture. Just an FYI.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

By the way you guys that like straps can buy straps with about a foot of chain on the end to hook like a regular chain does without having to have a short piece of chain, for it like it looks like used in the first picture. Just an FYI.

Yeah, but if you damage the strap then you have to buy a whole new strap-with-chain because they're permanently attached. Here you can just re-use the chain.

 

[caterpillar guy]

In the years I was using straps for tie downs I only had a couple straps that got ruined in 15 years of use and they were replaced for not all that much cost. I still have my straps with the chain ends on them. Where they cam in handy was with high lads I could use a chain to extend them easy that the flat hooks did not work well with. Just hook a chain to the end of the strap and go. Big thing was the weight would pull the strap back over if you didn't have one of a few things a helper to hold the end ,a way to hook the end then go hook the chain to it or hold the end of the chain up enough you could reach the strap to pull it down to the winch. A full 10 foot high load would leave me short on strap with the hooking and getting to the winch mounted just below the deck on the winch track at the bottom of the cross members. If it was hay I( could usually pull it enough to get it started.IF a solid load like pipe or such then no had to ad the chain.

 

[showcrop]

Doesn't matter. A ratchet strap isn't going generate enough force to bend anything.

Walk around a truck stop sometime.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

Walk around a truck stop sometime.

And look for what.

 

[caterpillar guy]

All the different ways chains and straps have been hooked to the side of the trailers. Everyone has a different idea on how it should be done or the companies have a way they want it done during their orientation for drivers some companies even do their own research on ties downs I was talking to a driver for a company that all they did was haul large cement tile and pipe. they had researched that 2 long cables over the top length ways held better than trying to hold each one.

 

[showcrop]

And look for what.

ratchet straps in use that can easily generate enough force to bend things.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

ratchet straps in use that can easily generate enough force to bend things.

The rachet strap with a 3 inch handle shown in the picture is not going to bend that pocket or the side rails.... no matter how he hooks it.
Bend what things, exactly? The trailer? The load? Doesn't that depend on your proper usage of tie downs? Screw binders generate ten times the force of a ratchet strap, how come they never bend anything? What trailer and what load did you ever see damaged at a truck stop? What was the load and where were the straps placed?

 

[Ray,IN]

What is the best way to chain to a stake pocket? I don't like being outside the rub rails. The photos are at a 45-degree angle. Two straps on the front, and a chain and binder through a clevis on the drawbar.

Looks good to me. Have you read the Purdue University load securement pamphlet yet?

 

[showcrop]

The rachet strap with a 3 inch handle shown in the picture is not going to bend that pocket or the side rails.... no matter how he hooks it.
Bend what things, exactly? The trailer? The load? Doesn't that depend on your proper usage of tie downs? Screw binders generate ten times the force of a ratchet strap, how come they never bend anything? What trailer and what load did you ever see damaged at a truck stop? What was the load and where were the straps placed?

My point is that the picture shows a light duty ratchet strap. It will not bend that pocket. However there are much heavier straps used all around the world every day to secure far heavier loads onto trucks, I assumed, appartently incorrectly that you would know this. Many people seem to think that chains are always going to be stronger than a strap, but of course a 1/4 inch chain will not be approved for any load on a truck. A good example is lumber. A driver could routinely use a six foot pipe to tighten his straps, and then what would happen if he used that same pipe to tighten his strap over the roof top of a shed on his truck? Yes, as you posted, you have to use tie-downs appropriately. But don't forget that you posted "A ratchet strap isn't going generate enough force to bend anything," classifying ALL ratchet straps as being light duty.