Chisel plow for ih 560

[waugh621]

I am wondering how much power it takes to pull a chisel plow. I would pull it behind a diesel 560. I know that ground type makes a huge differnece so heres what i'm workin with. When the ground is dry and ideal for working it is pretty fluffy, however we dont have a ton of top soil 4 to 6 inches is common, under that is mildly tight clay. There are also some clay knobs that i would need to work that a disk wont hardly cut .
Thanks Nate

 

[rustred]

A 10 ft chizel plow is what u need. We pulled a 10 ft Cockshutt 247 with our 560 years ago in 3rd gear. And in heavy pulling even 2nd gear. I pull 14 ft with my 660.

 

[crsutton81]

I am wondering how much power it takes to pull a chisel plow. I would pull it behind a diesel 560. I know that ground type makes a huge differnece so heres what i'm workin with. When the ground is dry and ideal for working it is pretty fluffy, however we dont have a ton of top soil 4 to 6 inches is common, under that is mildly tight clay. There are also some clay knobs that i would need to work that a disk wont hardly cut .
Thanks Nate

A safe figure that we use here in gray clay soils is to allow a good 12 hp per tine. This is assuming that it will be used for a primary tillage pass to bust up the hard pan, and not to be used as a field cultivator and tickle the topsoil.

 

[rustred]

the 560 is around 55 h p. and the cultivator has 9 shanks. so thats like 6 h.p. per shank in working stubble field for example. and in 2nd gear you have all the power you need. its pretty much 3rd gear work around here.

 

[waugh621]

the 560 is around 55 h p. and the cultivator has 9 shanks. so thats like 6 h.p. per shank in working stubble field for example. and in 2nd gear you have all the power you need. its pretty much 3rd gear work around here.

Thanks

 

[waugh621]

A safe figure that we use here in gray clay soils is to allow a good 12 hp per tine. This is assuming that it will be used for a primary tillage pass to bust up the hard pan, and not to be used as a field cultivator and tickle the topsoil.

Thanks

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Do you want a "chisel plow" or a "field cultivator?" They look similar at a glance but a field cultivator has smaller teeth, and more of them. It's more of a secondary tillage tool to smooth out the field after you've made a pass over it with the chisel plow.

5 shanks is about all the "chisel plow" you can expect to reasonably pull with a 560.

 

[super99]

Mounted or pull type? Are you running duals or single tires? Years ago I pulled a 7 shank with a Deere 730, wouldn't have wanted any bigger. Probably hard to find that small of a chisel, probably cheaper to buy a larger one and cut it down to the size you need.

 

[caterpillar guy]

I would say 10 foot is going to be a pretty good load for a 560. Most around here only pull about 8-10 feet with a 14or1566 . We only pull about 15 feet with 200 HP and I have pulled it with the 1466 and worked the tail off it to do so with to much slippage if you look at the tracks right behind the tractor. I would think more in line with about 6 feet would work better with a 560 . Speed to a point is your friend with a chisel plow to get the dirt to help cover the trash on top. Width of shovels and whether there is a sweep shovel, spike or, twisted on it. A chisel plow the shanks should be close to an inch thick front to back and field cultivators are only about 1/2-3/8 thick in the shank. They will also usually be wider for the chisel plow. Most want to be about 8-10 inches deep with them. Less is kind of useless for working dirt with them. Since they only turn the dirt the width of the shovel most use a twisted shovel of 3or 4 inches wide. Some will be half and half of right and left twist. Thus keeping it pulling straight in the field behind the tractor. We usually inter mix them so some don't throw dirt under the wheels so they don't cause it to jump and not dig evenly.

 

[rustred]

Do you want a "chisel plow" or a "field cultivator?" They look similar at a glance but a field cultivator has smaller teeth, and more of them. It's more of a secondary tillage tool to smooth out the field after you've made a pass over it with the chisel plow.

5 shanks is about all the "chisel plow" you can expect to reasonably pull with a 560.

That is funny ! Read my post. A 10 ft chisel plow has 9 shanks. Even a w6 will pull that 9 shank in 2nd gear. Your talking 5 shanks so that make it like 6 ft wide and you be trampling the worked ground each time with the rear tires. Around here the light cultivator is called a vibrashank. . A 560 would handle 12 ft -14 ft quite easily. I pull 18 ft with my 660.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

I think chisel plow needs to be more closely defined. For instance, a 560 will not pull a 10 shank conser-till 6000.

 

[NoDakInMN]

The type of shovel makes a difference too, sweeps verses beavertails.

 

[waugh621]

Do you want a "chisel plow" or a "field cultivator?" They look similar at a glance but a field cultivator has smaller teeth, and more of them. It's more of a secondary tillage tool to smooth out the field after you've made a pass over it with the chisel plow.

5 shanks is about all the "chisel plow" you can expect to reasonably pull with a 560.

Chisel plow. I am wanting to break the soil up pretty good with out risking damage to some of the shallow tile around here

 

[flying belgian]

I'm nicollet co MN ground we figure 8-10 hp/tooth

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

That is funny ! Read my post. A 10 ft chisel plow has 9 shanks. Even a w6 will pull that 9 shank in 2nd gear. Your talking 5 shanks so that make it like 6 ft wide and you be trampling the worked ground each time with the rear tires. Around here the light cultivator is called a vibrashank. . A 560 would handle 12 ft -14 ft quite easily. I pull 18 ft with my 660.

No way a W6 would do more than pull a 9 shank to the field around here. It would stop in its tracks the moment you lowered the chisel plow in the ground. You need 100+HP, and the tire and weight that comes with it, or you'll just spin your wheels and dig a hole.

I guess I don't see "trampling" as a big deal. My tillage tractor is 13'6" wide with duals. I pull a 10-shank chisel plow with 3" twisted points, about 10' wide. You'd be hard pressed to find any tire marks in the field after I'm done plowing. Besides you're "trampling" the worked ground 3-4 more times to get the crop put in.

 

[Loosehandle]

Do you want a "chisel plow" or a "field cultivator?" They look similar at a glance but a field cultivator has smaller teeth, and more of them. It's more of a secondary tillage tool to smooth out the field after you've made a pass over it with the chisel plow.

5 shanks is about all the "chisel plow" you can expect to reasonably pull with a 560.

I agree with barnyard, Im lucky to pull a 7 shank with a 1972 JD 4320, 115 hp. I have nasty clay and hills, its a real chisel plow with straight discs in front.

 

[paul]

That is funny ! Read my post. A 10 ft chisel plow has 9 shanks. Even a w6 will pull that 9 shank in 2nd gear. Your talking 5 shanks so that make it like 6 ft wide and you be trampling the worked ground each time with the rear tires. Around here the light cultivator is called a vibrashank. . A 560 would handle 12 ft -14 ft quite easily. I pull 18 ft with my 660.

Not in my soils it won’t.

I pulled a 9 shank simple 2 inch straight points with an 85hp tractor. I had to go shallow more often than I wanted to. Got a 145hp tractor and that was about right for the 9 shank.

Got a 7 shank twisted coulter chisel, now that was a nice match behind the 145hp tractor.

For molboard plowing, I had a 4-16 plow on the 85 hp tractor, usually was just right but some years was too much.

Got a 4-20 for the 145hp tractor and that was about right, there were conditions I could rear the front end up and it had a rock box on the front, real weight in it.

We have some of the tougher soils around me to work, so a smaller tractor might work in different soils for sure, but don’t assume it will everywhere!

Paul

 

[paul]

I'm nicollet co MN ground we figure 8-10 hp/tooth

Yea but you are on the west side of the county, in that loose easy soils over there.

Ha ha!

Farming close to the old glacial lake bottom, Swan Lake, the ground is tough over here.

Paul

 

[GermantownGreen]

White chisel. We put it on our 2-155.
Clay type soils here in West Central Missouri.
GG Wes

 

[560Dennis]

interesting post about a five sixty.
see your in central Ohio , recommend to look into what your soil is because ,and the condition of the tires and ballast available,and on the condition of the tractor. Ask what the neighbors are using . Ask someone that knows in your area.
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I looked at it once , think came up with only 5 , 10 horsepower per shank. In this area neo below south ridge , I use three 16 moldboard, that its behind the five .