clutch toggles?

[mlbtex]

hey guys the other problem with this 730 is that the hand clutch wont stay engaged on its own. after some research what i found is that on the dogs there is a toggle that looks like a dog bone and it can wear down to not lock in. not sure if thats right. but when i get to look for that part nobody has it. just wondered if it came with the dog part or some other part of there just hard to fine

 

[TriTownTB]

personally whenever i"ve had an old deere that the clutch wouldnt lock in good i"ve always replaced the T head bolts, dogs, toggles, and put in new facings including the one behind the driver that never seems to get replaced. so far thats always done the trick. it"s expensive to do.....isnt everything these days!.......but been well worth the money in the end. it doesnt take much wear in any or all of those parts to cause you trouble.

 

[Rwolfejr]

You probably just need to adjust it.

Pull the cover off the clutch and expose the three adjustment nuts. With the clutch disengaged the nuts will be loose. Take a measurement of how much bolt is sticking out past each nut. This should be equal at all of them. Then remove the cotter pins at the castle nuts and run each nut in about a half a turn. Try engaging the clutch and see if it takes a little more oomph to engage it and it locks. If not run them in another half. Repeat...

You don't want the clutch to be crazy tight cause it could lock up on you even when disengaged after things heat up etc.

There's a guy selling reproduction dogs and toggles on eBay. I bought a set of reproduction clutch friction plates on eBay once and they were junk. Holes didn't line up. Sent them back and forked out the $$ for some from Deere. My recollection is the drive and friction plates were around a grand from Deere. The toggles and dogs and pins and guide pins were another maybe 800 ish. The eBay toggle parts were a lot less expensive and probably fine. Like 25 bucks vs. maybe 150 each? Last time I looked you can't get the long operating bolts from Deere anymore? Least not for an 820 or the rest of that family.

 

[Ben.So.Tex.]

I just redid the clutch on my 720 and it was doing the same thing.
I replaced just the dogs and that took care of the problem.
Mother Deere wanted something like 60.00 each and someone posted me a name of where I could get them cheaper, and they were alot cheaper. But made in India. I just did this about 6 week ago.

 

[Ben.So.Tex.]

This is where I got them from.
http://www.wtrparts.com/index.html
Hope this helps.
Good luck Ben

 

[mlbtex]

thanks i just got off phone with deere and the toggles are 30 a piece so not to bad but still to high for no more than they are. on adjusting the clutch. im not sure its pretty good. when motor is idoling the pully will start up on its own without being engaged. i done learned to allways put in nutral with it running. when i shove lever forward there isnt and grabing or even act like it wants to grab so have feeling that the toggles and dogs are wore out. i notice when i picked it up had a rope tied onto handel. so im pretty sure instead of fixing right the just tied clutch up.

 

[mlbtex]

thanks ben. i checked them out. the clutch kits are priced good. i didnt see the dogs or the toggles on there though. im going to try to tear down the clutch this weekend and see how everything looks. this tractor sit in a lean to barn for over 20 years so i imagine the clutch is rusted up pretty good and until i drive it around or disassemble it and clean it just have to see. i just know having to tie a rope or bungee cord is not the best thing.

 

[Mike M]

Be sure to check the operating sleeve dowel pin and hole that keeps it from rotating. If these get sloppy you can never get them adjusted right.

 

[mlbtex]

ok where is that at on this. idk exactly what your talking about. i know yesterday when i started to put back in barn the clutch is taking off on its own without me moving lever at all. you have to pull back to engage brake for it to stop then takes off again. i plan on tonight to start taking it apart and go from there.

 

[Rwolfejr]

When you pull it apart take a look at the three hardened dowel pins that the friction plates slide onto. (Think that's what Mike was talking about...) If they get worn to where there are heavy grooves in them your clutch will sort of jump in. The plates fall into the grooves and it makes it about impossible to feather the clutch. The pins are pressed into the pulley and I'm thinking they were only about 10 bucks from Mother Deere.

Yep you definitely need to fix that clutch up. Don't want to lose control of the thing. Very dangerous way to operate...