Container's falling off

[fastfarmall]

After reading DR.EVIL article about the 886's, the dock workers must not be locking in the Locks, they have a fool proof locking system on the corner's of those containers! When they had the Red Power Round Up in Des Moines Iowa, i went threw the tractor tire plant,the machine they make the rear tracttor tires on, is made in Japan, our tour guide said they have lost containers full of new tire machine's also, that was one reason there were tire shortages years ago! I guess they cost million @ piece!

 

[ih560]

At work, we are currently short on PC interfaces because one of our suppliers had a container full of components that got lost off a ship just in the last couple of weeks. It seems to not be that uncommon, but with the number of containers that are jammed onto those shipped, I guess it can happen occasionally and be acceptable.

 

[ih560]

I just found this statistic from 2017 "An average of 1,390 containers have been lost at sea each year over the past three years, according to a new survey of the world s ocean carriers by the World Shipping Council. That represents a 48% reduction in the average annual losses compared to the previous three-year period. "

Just a few instances I found of this happening recently :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_i_K0mLTfY

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/06/03/cargo-ship-containers-australia-nr.cnn

The MV Rena lost an estimated 900 containers when it ran aground and broke up off the coast of New Zealand in October 2011. Photo courtesy Maritime New Zealand

 

[rustred]

I know they want to make the most of the trip but that is just ridiculous planning, to have that kind of a top heavy load.

 

[glennster]

heres an interesting read. off cornwall uk about 20 years ago a container full of legos fell off a ship. the have been washing up on shore for years.
legos

 

[Russ from MN]

If they had YT police supervising the loading and tie-down like we do for folks hauling tractors that wouldn't happen! Maybe they should put a big ratchet strap over the load?

 

[DR. EVIL]

Which tractor tire plant did you tour? Firestone or the old Armstrong plant? Both make large rear tractor tires.
Locking the containers down on the ship not my job. Just getting replacement parts ASAP for air shipment was my Job #1.
I had a Siemens electronic component fail on a piece of automated food processing equipment 25 years ago. Siemens traced the problem ALL the way back to the container being dropped while unloading at the ship dock on the east coast. Siemens replaced the part for me, then went after the shipper to recover their costs.

 

[fastfarmall]

It was the Firestone Plant,The Goverment built it during WW2,to make tires for the Duece and Half's etc, but it been added on 3 times i think they said, it was very interesting, i can see why those 20.8-38 and bigger cost a lot of money!

 

[DR. EVIL]

My Bosses at FARMALL were not real big on supplier visits, they wanted us at our desks every day chasing parts, but the Firestone plant would have been the one I wanted to see! I did get there one afternoon, I was driving for Farmall's contract trucking company, and Farmall had processed a little load of tires to return to Firestone. They put me in one of the slowest trucks they had that day! Good-Year's large rear farm tires were made at the Kelly-Springfield Plant on Route 20 East of Freeport, Illinois. I actually lived there for 2 years in 1989 &'90. And B.F.Goodrich made all their ag tires in Miami, Oklahoma.
I would have liked to see rear tractor rims being rolled. French & Heckt was right along River Drive in downtown Davenport, Iowa, but never got there for a tour. Got a couple job offers from them.
Only supplier I visited was Elwood Mfg, by Joliet, Illinois, made the front wheel assist for the 86-series, plus made parts to fit tractors all the way back to the M. That company was a lot smaller than you would think. DANA-SPICER made the axle, Elwood built the little gear case and driveshaft, bought the finished drive gear, welded up the mounting brackets, and bought flame cut plates for frt wheels and Elwood welded up the rims and wheel centers. They were more of a welding shop than a machine shop. Would guess they had 10-12 full time employees, plus the two owners.

 

[CraigB.]

I've heard horror stories about containers falling off ships. Especially the ones that float just below the surface! Try ramming a container full of ?? at 25 mph with a huge ship. Things will happen.

 

[fastfarmall]

Dont know if it's true,but i been told also, that here suppose to float for 4 days so hey can be retrieved!!!

 

[Pete in Holland MI]

15 years ago, he company I worked for had a bunch of custom machinery being built in Europe. We met & talked with the logistics company that organized the trip from door to door. Some interesting facts surfaced during that meeting:

1) An average of 10,000 containers per year are lost (overboard, ship to the wrong port & no paperwork, unclaimed, stolen, etc)

2) Containers DO fall off ships in storms for various reasons.

3) Containers are rain tight when new, but not necessarily water proof. Falling into the water, they will all eventually sink. The time to sink depends on the integretity of the container, and weight of the cargo. Yes, for a while, they are hazards to other ships.

4) The captain of the ship has the right to start throwing containers off his ship if the ship is in jeapordy. Rule of the sea is that if YOUR containers were thrown overboard, resulting in saving mine, MY insurance company is responsible for paying for your losses.

Other note:

5 years or so ago, the man (Maersk) who invented the concept of containerized shipping as we know it, died. Some time after his death, word went out, and at a particular time around the world, all container ships blew their horn for a minute to commemorate his passing.



Pete

 

[fastfarmall]

Interesting, i seen that name Maersk,is written on a lot of container's, but what is in really poor shape are the chassis, that are just beat,no body takes care of them!

 

[Bob]

(quoted from post at 23:58:25 01/12/20) 15 years ago, he company I worked for had a bunch of custom machinery being built in Europe. We met & talked with the logistics company that organized the trip from door to door. Some interesting facts surfaced during that meeting:

1) An average of 10,000 containers per year are lost (overboard, ship to the wrong port & no paperwork, unclaimed, stolen, etc)

2) Containers DO fall off ships in storms for various reasons.

3) Containers are rain tight when new, but not necessarily water proof. Falling into the water, they will all eventually sink. The time to sink depends on the integretity of the container, and weight of the cargo. Yes, for a while, they are hazards to other ships.

4) The captain of the ship has the right to start throwing containers off his ship if the ship is in jeapordy. Rule of the sea is that if YOUR containers were thrown overboard, resulting in saving mine, MY insurance company is responsible for paying for your losses.

Other note:

5 years or so ago, the man (Maersk) who invented the concept of containerized shipping as we know it, died. Some time after his death, word went out, and at a particular time around the world, all container ships blew their horn for a minute to commemorate his passing.



Pete

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