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[rustred]

This one is from Explore Saskatchewan Agriculture. View attachment 135329

Ok now I see what it is. We had nothing like that around here. I can see probably in Sask.

 

[trackrat]

Well what do you call this? This is a disc.
A disc plow does the same thing as a moldboard plow, it just has big disc to turn the sod under instead of a moldboard.
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Rotor tillers are powered; rotary hoes were not just rollers with spikes on them by the way a tandem disc is not the same as a moldboard plow moldboards are primary tillage tools tandem discs are not

 

[trackrat]

Around here they are called roto-tillers. Never heard them called rotary hoes either. Guess that’s like the disc plow also u guys call them. They are called disc’s here and a plow has moldboards. 2 separate pieces of equipment.

In Texas that is called a one-way plow I still have two of them

 

[m16ty]

Rotor tillers are powered; rotary hoes were not just rollers with spikes on them by the way a tandem disc is not the same as a moldboard plow moldboards are primary tillage tools tandem discs are not

I wasn't the one that mentioned roto-tillers.

Also, I was talking about a disc plow, not a regular disc. Disc plows are primary tillage tools, just like a moldboard plow. Here is a pic of a disc plow.

 

[trackrat]

I wasn't the one that mentioned roto-tillers.

Also, I was talking about a disc plow, not a regular disc. Disc plows are primary tillage tools, just like a moldboard plow. Here is a pic of a disc plow.
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The plow pictured in the post was a tandem disc if I commented on the wrong post I am sorry, and yes this is a disc breaking plow

 

[Old Ford Mechanic]

Eye
Been awhile tho

Here in the cotton country years ago before no till planting became the norm farmers prepared the ground like this. First, they used a breaking or as some called it a "turning plow" to roll the hard pan dirt over. Then they came back with a disc to level the ground and get it ready to plant. Most used a couple of passes with the disc to get the ground in shape and used a heavy drag of some sort behind the disc on the last pass. This created a very smooth surface they then planted the crop in. If it happened to rain before the plants emerged the ground would crust over causing the young plants to have a difficult time emerging from the ground. So, most of the farmers would use a implement called a Rotary Hoe to solve this problem. Its sole purpose was to break that crust allowing the plants to come up. It was also used on corn fields but, to lesser degree then the cotton acreage. I never saw the Rotary Hoe or Roto Hoe as my dad called it used for weed control. Most used a pre emerge chemical such as Treflan to control weeds. If weeds did need removed after the plants came up and started growing then, a good sharp "goose neck hoe" with someone to use it came into play. My three younger brothers and i had a lot of experience with those hoes and weeds. After no till planting became the norm here the rotary hoe and the breaking plow became mostly obsolete to farms. I still get nauseated whenever i look at a goose neck hoe.

 

[joeysmith]

Here in the cotton country years ago before no till planting became the norm farmers prepared the ground like this. First, they used a breaking or as some called it a "turning plow" to roll the hard pan dirt over. Then they came back with a disc to level the ground and get it ready to plant. Most used a couple of passes with the disc to get the ground in shape and used a heavy drag of some sort behind the disc on the last pass. This created a very smooth surface they then planted the crop in. If it happened to rain before the plants emerged the ground would crust over causing the young plants to have a difficult time emerging from the ground. So, most of the farmers would use a implement called a Rotary Hoe to solve this problem. Its sole purpose was to break that crust allowing the plants to come up. It was also used on corn fields but, to lesser degree then the cotton acreage. I never saw the Rotary Hoe or Roto Hoe as my dad called it used for weed control. Most used a pre emerge chemical such as Treflan to control weeds. If weeds did need removed after the plants came up and started growing then, a good sharp "goose neck hoe" with someone to use it came into play. My three younger brothers and i had a lot of experience with those hoes and weeds. After no till planting became the norm here the rotary hoe and the breaking plow became mostly obsolete to farms. I still get nauseated whenever i look at a goose neck hoe.

Yea the only time we dug it out was the odd years the top crusted over hard
Don't ever remember using one much for weed control.
Ran it behind a hydrostatic IH but I cannot recall the model number

 

[flying belgian]

Everybody posting about using rotary hoe for breaking up crust and we did too. How come we don't need to break crust anymore With the harder and heavier rain we've been getting I would think it would be needed now more than ever. At least here in Southern MN.

 

[Old Ford Mechanic]

Everybody posting about using rotary hoe for breaking up crust and we did too. How come we don't need to break crust anymore With the harder and heavier rain we've been getting I would think it would be needed now more than ever. At least here in Southern MN.

No till planting used most everywhere now. The disc opener design does not compact the soil like old style planter press wheels did. The soil is not as loose so, water does not compact it as much.

 

[joeysmith]

Everybody posting about using rotary hoe for breaking up crust and we did too. How come we don't need to break crust anymore With the harder and heavier rain we've been getting I would think it would be needed now more than ever. At least here in Southern MN.

Here its because everything is no till
Ground doesn't crust over like it did without Ground cover

 

[flying belgian]

No till planting used most everywhere now. The disc opener design does not compact the soil like old style planter press wheels did. The soil is not as loose so, water does not compact it as much.

Not here in Southern MN. Everybody went back to deep fall village. These disk rippers have covering blades on the back and leave the ground as black as a mold board plow. Then in the spring they use a field cultivator with spring harrow and rolling basket mounted behind. It leaves the seed bed black, clean, level and soil fine as flour. Then to top it off they go over the soybeans with a roller before beans are up. All this seems like perfect conditions for heavy rain to form a crust.

 

[Old Ford Mechanic]

Not here in Southern MN. Everybody went back to deep fall village. These disk rippers have covering blades on the back and leave the ground as black as a mold board plow. Then in the spring they use a field cultivator with spring harrow and rolling basket mounted behind. It leaves the seed bed black, clean, level and soil fine as flour. Then to top it off they go over the soybeans with a roller before beans are up. All this seems like perfect conditions for heavy rain to form a crust.

I agree.

 

[trackrat]

in north central Texas we used a bedder, busters, or also called a hipper to put up beds [raised rows of soil], the bedders were our primary tillage tool for row crops. these practices continued until the early 80s then later style planters took over and the beds went by the wayside all flat tillage used now

 

[trackrat]

I wasn't the one that mentioned roto-tillers.

Also, I was talking about a disc plow, not a regular disc. Disc plows are primary tillage tools, just like a moldboard plow. Here is a pic of a disc plow.
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But your picture was of a tandem

 

[m16ty]

But your picture was of a tandem

The other poster said he called a disc plow just a disc, I was curious what he called a regular disc then.

 

[trackrat]

We called a disc like you are talking about a disc braking plow we used moldboards neighbor used 3- and 4-disc IH disc braking plows

 

[Newgenerationdeere]

Now u are being funny. Not a chance that disc will turn over a furrow like a plow.

This is a disc plow not a moldboard plow this is what he says turns sod like a moldboard plow .

 

[Timmycornpicker]

It seems in certain regions of the US, any piece of tillage equipment that engages the soil is called a plow, even if it isn't a plow. I've seen row-crop cultivators called 'cotton plows' or 'corn plows', offset disc harrows called 'disc plows', tandem disc harrows called 'tandem plows', even one of those combination machines some call "Do-Alls" called a 'finishing plow'. And then some say it's just disc, not disc harrow. Then is it disc or disk? Moldboard plow, turning plow or breaking plow? No, a disc plow is a breaking plow.

 

[rustred]

This is a disc plow not a moldboard plow this is what he says turns sod like a moldboard plow .

I don’t believe that. Go on an old alfalfa field and them disc’s won’t even go in the ground. Lots of times if it’s dry the moldboard won’t cut in either. You need to plow after a rain. Them disc’s are more like a tiller which works in stubble field. And in them days it was crop one year and summer fallow the next year. These disc plows would be used to turn over the weeds and wild oats to bury them as fertilizer. Nobody used these modern fertilizers or sprays back then. Other than cow manure and that’s a weed spreader Also.

 

[Texasmark]

how many here have used a rotary hoe

That's a good question. I bought a lot of used equipment at auctioneer's businesses where the items to be auctioned were stacked and lots of them were for sale or auctioned. Saw a lot of rotary hoes and had no idea what they were used for....have since learned and that function doesn't fit my farming outline.