Disc Plow (not harrow)

[CaverDave]

Hadn't gotten any hits on this in my original post, so decided a new post may bump visibilty?

Locally, I've found an Farmall/IH *3 point* (makes it kinda rare in IH circles given their dislike of the competitions connection methods) C-200 (2) disc plow. Appears the C-200 was spec'd for the Super C/230 class, so aside from steering type/length/height, aligns well with the 8N in terms of HP. It's size also appears to align with the Dearborn disc plow, with this plow having 28" discs (vs the Dearborns 26")

I've spent hours searching both the current & "archive" posts with only a few informative posts found (aside from personal preference), that indicate they are great for "new ground" and do well in rocky/reclamation?

My uses will all be "reclaiming" from 50 years of encroachment/compaction (= hard clay, lot's of rocks, roots, & 1"-3" Pine stumps). Other info indicates they be used to create "terraces"? We have a slope at the top of one pasture (near where our bee's will reside in the future) that my wife would love to plant... that could benefit from this.

Thoughts from the YT collective?

 

[R Geiger]

Got any photo's?

 

[Hobo,NC]

It will be a hard pull it will take a strong N to do the job... When done it will beat you to death disking it in...

 

[504]

THe IH is a Fast Hitch and will not hook to an 8N. Maybe I am miss reading something.

 

[CaverDave]

(quoted from post at 20:26:36 01/06/21)
Got any photo's?

I do, but unfortunately under the post limit/qouta for posting them... will try to get some posted tomorrow.

 

[CaverDave]

(quoted from post at 23:06:27 01/06/21)
It will be a hard pull it will take a strong N to do the job... When done it will beat you to death disking it in...

as hoping you'd respond sir! You're saying that it takes more power to pull than a a bottom plow?

(quoted from post at 23:56:52 01/06/21) THe IH is a Fast Hitch and will not hook to an 8N. Maybe I am miss reading something.

Reading is fundamental... as said, it IS a 3point (not fast hitch)

 

[Ultradog MN]

If you have read through the archives you
may have seen my posts about using a
Dearborn 10-80 disc plow.
If not, I'll recap;
I had one. Had the original manual for it
and know I had it set up and adjusted
properly.
I used it to try to break some new ground
that was rocky and rooty for a deer plot.
The plow worked as intended. It rolled up
and over roots and rocks where a moldboard
plow would constantly get hung up.
But it did not cut deep. It bounced along
and only scratched the surface.
So I tried it on another plot where I had
moldboard plowed the year before. Same
deal; it did not cut deep enough and it did
not roll the furrow over like a properly
adjusted moldboard plow does. My thinking
then was if I could have added another 300
lbs of weight on it it might have been
effective. I didn't try that.
If I were going to try to do some
reclamation in a rocky, stumpy, rooty area
with a disc plow I would add weight to the
front of the tractor then load the disc
plow down with all the weight the tractor
could lift and just go round and round. Do
it every 2 weeks all summer to cut up and
kill off all the roots then moldboard plow
the next year.
One final thought; Horsepower was not an
issue at all on the 10-80. It did not
penetrate the ground enough to be moving
enough soil to make the tractor sweat at
all.

 

[Hobo,NC]

I would go over it with a all poupous plow

https://forums.yesterdaystractors.c...ostorder=asc&highlight=field&start=15

What you are attempting to do will fight most anything... Packed clay and packed sand clay are tuff, as is root bound virgin ground...

 

[CaverDave]

(quoted from post at 07:31:48 01/07/21) If you have read through the archives you
may have seen my posts about using a
Dearborn 10-80 disc plow.
If not, I'll recap;
I had one. Had the original manual for it
and know I had it set up and adjusted
properly.
I used it to try to break some new ground
that was rocky and rooty for a deer plot.
The plow worked as intended. It rolled up
and over roots and rocks where a moldboard
plow would constantly get hung up.
But it did not cut deep. It bounced along
and only scratched the surface.
So I tried it on another plot where I had
moldboard plowed the year before. Same
deal; it did not cut deep enough and it did
not roll the furrow over like a properly
adjusted moldboard plow does. My thinking
then was if I could have added another 300
lbs of weight on it it might have been
effective. I didn't try that.
If I were going to try to do some
reclamation in a rocky, stumpy, rooty area
with a disc plow I would add weight to the
front of the tractor then load the disc
plow down with all the weight the tractor
could lift and just go round and round. Do
it every 2 weeks all summer to cut up and
kill off all the roots then moldboard plow
the next year.
One final thought; Horsepower was not an
issue at all on the 10-80. It did not
penetrate the ground enough to be moving
enough soil to make the tractor sweat at
all.

Thank you for the info sir!
I may be using the wrong term here? The main 5-7 acre field is currently covered in pasture grass, has been hayed for the past 10 years and appears to have been used for both crops (trails around the outboard edges) and livestock (remnants of various fencing still visible around the perimeter) at some point. Looks like the acre near the top (a little more grade than the rest) wasn't mowed/hayed during that time and was covered in small opportunistic pines (1"-3" at the base). We've cut them all off near the ground with a pole pruner and have stacked them for burning at some point.

The other 1/2 acre plot was plowed/disc'd/tilled and used as a garden within the past 10 years, but has been driven over as a vehicle turn around...

Would these be considered "new" ground?

 

[CaverDave]

Thank you for the info sir!

I've given a little better description of the field(s) in reply to Ultradog's response, so maybe that helps?

 

[CaverDave]

 

[CaverDave]

Field (hayed last July 2019)

 

[R Geiger]

I agree, that this will not cut thru the sod in the hay field, you need a turning plow to do that. There is areson you do not see many of these disc plows, they don't work in many conditions.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Hobo,
Yes. That is a great tool and would do
better than a disc plow for tearing up old,
rooty sod.
You'd better have position control tho so
you can set the depth you're digging.
My cousin has a similar cultivator and
that's all he uses for his garden every
year behind about a 40 hp John Deere.
It will stop the the tractor in its tracks
if he lets it go too deep.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Here's a Dearborn 10-247 Disc Plow. Note the scrapers. These were a big problem as they would get rocks, roots, and trash clogged up and hinder disc performance so many farmers simply removed them. I suggest you survey the land before doing any plowing. Remove any stumps, large rocks, car parts, refrigerators, and/or dead bodies before you plow.

DEARBORN 10-247 DISC PLOW:

<img src="https://i.imgur.com/WHJApyth.jpg">​

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Lynn Patrick]

Sounds like it just won't work for you, so I'll give you half your money back for it if you will deliver it! :lol:

 

[47fivewindow]

I was working some land under a power line for the first time and I started
with a cheap subsoiler. I hooked it to the 9N. with no weights and empty
tires it did not have enough power to destroy the plow. It did pull out old
rotted stumps and live roots. If it hung up it just spun the tires. The
following year I moldboard plowed it without difficulty
try this