disks

[couv]

I am looking for a 8 to 10 ft pull type disk. John Deere dealer suggested to avoid the "letter series" disks -- RWA BWA, etc, as JD has discontinued the bearings. Currently bearings are over $400 each.

Which are the models to avoid?

Which are the models that are affordable ?

Whole farm is less than 60 acres, so I don't need to invest a ton of $$'s. Don't plan on doing much disking any way on a cattle farm.

 

[Greg K]

Lots of good old ones out there. Like you said avoid the KBA, they were a chain lift so had little downpressure on them. IH #37 are a good one, don't know all the good ones though.

 

[Erik Ks farmer]

If you can find a good BW, they are a very good disc.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 22:04:37 02/11/13) John Deere dealer suggested to avoid the "letter series" disks -- RWA BWA, etc, as JD has discontinued the bearings. Currently bearings are over $400 each.

BW & BWA are some of the better JD tandem disks. Brgs are double tapered roller brgs and are still available.
AB12603 ANTI FRICTION BEARING - ASSEM. ADD 91.24 USD

RW & RWA were notorious for ridging the soil.
KB 7 KBA are just soil scratchers.

 

[Leroy]

The KBA is a very good disk for use as a finnishing disk in previously plowed soil and in bare soybean ground work good. They are not a primary work type disk to go out and cut up trash that most folks want to do now but for as they were designed for they are a very good disk. Had one and used it the most along with a McCormick No. 37 that was used on heavier jobs. McCormick was usually first over plowed ground followed by the KBA for second pass. Had 2 different non angle adjustable disks and found those type are what you need to stay away from and that is what those Deere disks are and why I could not sell one but the McCormick I could if I could find them.

 

[Vernon in Ks]

Krause made a great little disk in the 8 and 10ft size.

 

[rrlund]

So are you looking for another model of Deere disc then,or asking about other brands?

 

[paul]

Shoup has the bearings, they don't always show up in their online catalog - honestly I struggle with their online deal - but they are in the paper catalog. I ordered some from them a few years ago.

Paul

 

[JD Seller]

Look for an IH 37 or 370 disk. The early one had the old box type bearings but the later ones just used a grease able ball bearing. The 8-10 footer will be the higher priced disk of that age group. A 12 footer will bring half what a 8 or 10 will.

 

[tomstractorsandtoys1]

TX the smaller BW used a different bearing as they were 1 1/8in shaft.It is the same bearing used in the F925 roller harrow.They were a sealed ball bearing not a tappered bearing.I find it hard to believe that Deere no longer has that bearing.

 

[Tx Jim]

(reply to post at 14:26:01 02/12/13)

Tom
NOT all BW's used the brgs you referred to. This was copied & pasted out of parts catalog #744 for BW tandems.
(D) 11'2" BW, 2 USED; 12'6", 13'10", 16'6", 17'10", 19'2", 20'6" BW LESS FOLDING GANGS, 13'4" BWN,
3 USED; 15'2", 16'6", 17'10" BW, 4 USED; 16'6", 17'10", 19'2, 20'6" BW WITH FOLDING GANGS, 5 USED)
PS photo is from same parts catalog.

 

[Tx Jim]

Tom
Granted the BW built <1962 used the AK3997B brg on the 3 smaller models which is the same brg that was used on the KBA,RWA & AW disk harrows with anti-friction brgs.

 

[couv]

In Central Louisiana, 4-row & 6-row equipment went way-away years ago, so there aren't many 8 or 10 ft choppers of any brand around here.

Also aren't many farm equipment auctions in Louisiana this year.

I'm open on brand. The only 37's I've seen look pretty rough. When you see one around here that has a "rock pan" and the pan looks very used, the rest of the disk looks worse. And they still want over $3000 for it.

 

[tomstractorsandtoys1]

Yes, I have owned both the small one with the ball bearing and now have a BW and a BWF with the larger tappered roller bearing.I found out that the small bearing is not to be had from Deere.I do have some new ones as they fit my roller harrow as well.The bearing I have is a BCA DC208,Deere still lists the seals.I was not aware that a KBA,RW or RWA could be had with sealed bearings.The only ones that I ever saw were the greasable ones,and I have plenty of experience pumping lots of grease into them as years ago we had several KBA and RWA's.I wish ours would have had the sealed bearings as each disc used almost a full tube of grease.My hand still hurts thinking about pumping all that grease.LOL

 

[Greg K]

Gotcha. That makes sense, just what you are using them for. After I answered I couldn't remember what widths they sold the 37 in and thought I might have misled him there.

 

[mb58]

Hey I got belittled for using the term 4-row and 6-row on this website. Seems we in Louisiana are the only ones that refer to disk size by the number of rows it covers. Everyone else measures width in feet. Oh well. Their loss.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 22:44:18 02/12/13) Hey I got belittled for using the term 4-row and 6-row on this website. Seems we in Louisiana are the only ones that refer to disk size by the number of rows it covers. Everyone else measures width in feet. Oh well. Their loss.

4 or 6 row definition is probably a Southern description as 14' or 21' implements were referred as you stated here in Texas also

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 21:47:34 02/12/13) I found out that the small bearing is not to be had from Deere.I do have some new ones as they fit my roller harrow as well.The bearing I have is a BCA DC208,Deere still lists the seals.I was not aware that a KBA,RW or RWA could be had with sealed bearings.

JD still offers brgs for the KBA,RWA & AW.
Part Number:
A14629 2
JD8565 1 $69
Description
OIL SEAL
ANTI-FRICTION BALL BEARING

Replaces Part: AK3997B
Description: BEARING & BEARING SEAL - ASSEM.

 

[Leroy]

How do you know how wide one is when you are talking 15" rows as a lot are, 20", 30" now most common but still some 40" rows out there? a 6 row 15" would only be an 8' unit while a 6 row 40" unit would be a 21' unit so how would you know what it would take to pull a 4 row unit or a 6 row unit?

 

[Tx Jim]

Leroy
As previously stated it must be a Southern statement. The 4 or 6 row term was back in the "ole days" of 36"-40" rows. It's just a terminology similar to digger used for field cult.

 

[brent wortham]

i thought to JD disk was junk... i got a burch and thought the internationals was fine