Does 841 reverse have engine governing?

[ZehnX]

Last weekend I helped a friend move some stone to cover a no-grass bed. First time I'd tried anything like this with my tractor+loader so I anticipated some learning curve.
The pile of rock was at the top of a hill driveway and the bed was halfway down the driveway, a few feet to the side of it. I have only ever used the tractor on flat ground before this.

Some wisdom I learned pretty quick to pass along: (no-brainers for you old timers)
1. Learn to use both brake pedals together before you try this, and
2. Put weight on the pto end, my mower worked great for this.

Here's the question: taking stone down the hill, in first gear going forward, the engine was helping me keep the tractor speed down. But when I tried to do the reverse gear going backward down the hill, it seemed like it was off to the races. Is this actually how it works, or was it operator error? Maybe I stomped the clutch (I don't think so) or it just felt fast because, reverse.

This post was edited by ZehnX on 08/20/2022 at 09:23 am.

 

[Jim.ME]

(quoted from post at 12:20:09 08/20/22) Last weekend I helped a friend move some stone to cover a no-grass bed. First time I'd tried anything like this with my tractor+loader so I anticipated some learning curve.
The pile of rock was at the top of a hill driveway and the bed was halfway down the driveway, a few feet to the side of it. I have only ever used the tractor on flat ground before this.

Some wisdom I learned pretty quick to pass along: (no-brainers for you old timers)
1. Learn to use both brake pedals together before you try this, and
2. Put weight on the pto end, my mower worked great for this.

Here's the question: taking stone down the hill, in first gear going forward, the engine was helping me keep the tractor speed down. But when I tried to do the reverse gear going backward down the hill, it seemed like it was off to the races. Is this actually how it works, or was it operator error? Maybe I stomped the clutch (I don't think so) or it just felt fast because, reverse.

This post was edited by ZehnX on 08/20/2022 at 09:23 am.

Reverse gear is geared higher (faster) than first, so it will not provide the same amount of braking power. Going down the hill in second or third will yield similar results to what you encountered backing down the hill. This is why you see signs near the top of hills for trucks to use lower gears, there is more engine hold back power. The governor is in the engine, and works off engine rpm all the time, not the transmission gears. And too much push from going downhill and the governor will not stop an engine from overspeeding.

 

[da.bees]

Like Jim says,here's the gears (Sherman Aside)
1-3.0
R=3.9
2=4.5

 

[ZehnX]

Makes complete sense, thank you for the help!