doing a survey,

[Non-farmer]

When I rebuilt my 2N engine, prior to joining this site, I bought a box of Pal nuts for the connecting rods. If you wanted to use some, I'd be happy to mail you a few, assuming they're the right size.

 

[wore out]

I recently had to take a tiny wheel/tire off of my mini-tiller. After trying gently to remove the pal nut, I finally tore the thing off with a vise grip and drilled the axle so I could use a washer and cotter pin. Never a future problem with that end of the axle.

I'm gonna GUESS you are confusing a "push nut" with a "PAL nut"?

 

[William S]

When I rebuilt my 2N engine, prior to joining this site, I bought a box of Pal nuts for the connecting rods. If you wanted to use some, I'd be happy to mail you a few, assuming they're the right size.

Thank You for the offer, I had purchased more than enough pal nuts, safety wire and cotter pins to last for a while.

William

 

[Hobo,NC]

When I rebuilt my 2N engine, prior to joining this site, I bought a box of Pal nuts for the connecting rods. If you wanted to use some, I'd be happy to mail you a few, assuming they're the right size.

I have a box of used Pal nuts found in the bottom of oil pans. I really don't think they should be there so never put them back, YMMV. Somethings are outdated and were never practical to begin with. I found it interesting the rod nuts stayed in place without their pal. What a weak solution.

 

[Destroked 450]

Safety wire is still used in some apps today, there probably is a few old apps were a good locktite would work just as well
Palnuts I’m on the fence about, if it came with them I usually put them back on but I’ve never really trusted them to do much
Not sure about our 2018 pickup but my 04 still uses cotter pins in the ball joints and tie rods, I wouldn’t trust locktite to hold the axle nuts on on any of my tractors or implements

 

[HarryVanderpool]

I have a box of used Pal nuts found in the bottom of oil pans. I really don't think they should be there so never put them back, YMMV. Somethings are outdated and were never practical to begin with. I found it interesting the rod nuts stayed in place without their pal. What a weak solution.

And as they randomly fell off, the engine was WAY out of dynamic balance.

 

[soaked]

Pal nut wont fit into the oil pick up tube's end, but an oil pump cover bolt will...

 

[William S]

Pal nut wont fit into the oil pick up tube's end, but an oil pump cover bolt will...
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Did you notice the hole in the head of that bolt? Safety wire was to be used and if it had been used it would not have come all the way out and into the tube. Is that a pal nut on the bolt? No call for them on the oil pump. I never understood pal nuts, they were one time use items and the applications were a mystery to me. I thought they were to be put on the thread of a bolt or stud above the nut to somehow keep it from backing off.

 

[William S]

Tell me, does Locktite leave a residue on the bolt or stud when used?

 

[Non-farmer]

I have a box of used Pal nuts found in the bottom of oil pans. I really don't think they should be there so never put them back, YMMV. Somethings are outdated and were never practical to begin with. I found it interesting the rod nuts stayed in place without their pal. What a weak solution.

For whatever it's worth, I have no loyalty to pal nuts. I used them because I saw some people insisting everyone follows the manual to the letter, and it was prior to my learning that sometimes that's not the best course, and sometimes those people are clueless about some things. Bottom line - there were no pal nuts laying in my oil pan

If anyone wants any of my extras I will happily provide them (I ended up getting stuck with, iirc, a box of 87 of them.) I sincerely hope to never rebuild it again, and if I do, between you and TOH, I will almost certainly use loctite the next time.

 

[soaked]

Pic was staged -- just ment to show parts.
I use saftey wire on the oil pump bolts, and dont install pal nuts.
If the screen mesh on the oil pan drain plug is intact, big stuff wont get into the pick up tube....

 

[R Geiger]

No!

 

[GChief]

Just got done doing safety wire on a Rolls Royce 501-K34.

 

[William S]

Pic was staged -- just ment to show parts.
I use saftey wire on the oil pump bolts, and dont install pal nuts.
If the screen mesh on the oil pan drain plug is intact, big stuff wont get into the pick up tube....

just showing possibilities. It did show some ( 2 ) types of connectors and helped the narrative along the way.

 

[William S]

Just got done doing safety wire on a Rolls Royce 501-K34

Do you use the thicker or thinner wire? Or is it a preference type of thing?I've tried both and for me it may be a matter of how much space is available to actually wire it in. I don't actually recall any specific wire size ever being called out.

Ship Service Gas Turbine Generators (SSGTGs) of the U.S Navy’s USS, just how big are those units? I had a couple of friends that worked on generators in the Navy that they could walk into and repair them, so they explained it.Said they could hear them kick in at night, through out the harbor, the locals had them hidden away.That would have taken place back in the mid to late 70's.

 

[GChief]

Do you use the thicker or thinner wire? Or is it a preference type of thing?

.032 or .064, depends on what you wre doing, and it's is not a preference thing it's a spec.

 

[Hobo,NC]

Do you use the thicker or thinner wire? Or is it a preference type of thing?I've tried both and for me it may be a matter of how much space is available to actually wire it in. I don't actually recall any specific wire size ever being called out.

What ever fits

 

[Non-farmer]

In the immortal words of Mr. Mom:

220, 221 - whatever it takes.

42 years old now, and still one of my alltime favorite movie quotes.

 

[showcrop]

Tell me, does Locktite leave a residue on the bolt or stud when used?

One would hope.

 

[William S]

What ever fits

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Thanks for the pic. They help. Sorta like my use of fly fishing line to repair wind chimes, comes in many sizes and strengths.