Engine/turbo differences 1130/1135?

[sixtyninegmc]

I have an 1130, and the turbo needs replaced. I have found that the the late 1135 turbos are about half the price. The early 1135's are the same as the 1130. Anybody know what would need to be changed to use the late model turbo? My manifold and exhaust elbow both need replaced anyway, so looking at options.

 

[ejr-IA.]

The difference is in the make of turbo.The higher priced one is the Schwitzer and the cheaper one is the AiResearch .Use the cheaper one cost less to rebuild.

 

[sixtyninegmc]

(quoted from post at 13:38:27 10/23/15) The difference is in the make of turbo.The higher priced one is the Schwitzer and the cheaper one is the AiResearch .Use the cheaper one cost less to rebuild.

o the airesearch will interchange with the schwitzer without other changes?

 

[ptfarmer]

There are 2 different turbos listed for the 1130.
884777M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Type 3A-200) Used Prior To Engine Serial Number 354UA1181T. 1884218M1 Gasket, Mounting. 735418M1 Manifold, Exhaust.
or
1853324M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Type 3LD) Used Engine Serial Number 354UA1181T And Up. 1884218M1 Gasket, Mounting. 736650M1 Manifold, Exhaust.

There are 2 different turbos listed for the 1135.
1853324M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Type 3LD) (Perkins No. 2674216) Used Prior To Engine Serial Number 354UA16470T. 1884218M1 Gasket, Mounting (Perkins No. 26740529). 742212M1 Manifold, Exhaust (Perkins No. 37782353)
or
1447152M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Airesearch No. 465740-1). Used With Engine Serial Number 354UA16470T And Up. 740852M1 Gasket, Mounting. 742658M1 Manifold, Exhaust (Perkins No. 37782862)

A big can of worms!

 

[sixtyninegmc]

(quoted from post at 13:49:38 10/23/15) There are 2 different turbos listed for the 1130.
884777M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Type 3A-200) Used Prior To Engine Serial Number 354UA1181T. 1884218M1 Gasket, Mounting. 735418M1 Manifold, Exhaust.
or
1853324M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Type 3LD) Used Engine Serial Number 354UA1181T And Up. 1884218M1 Gasket, Mounting. 736650M1 Manifold, Exhaust.

There are 2 different turbos listed for the 1135.
1853324M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Type 3LD) (Perkins No. 2674216) Used Prior To Engine Serial Number 354UA16470T. 1884218M1 Gasket, Mounting (Perkins No. 26740529). 742212M1 Manifold, Exhaust (Perkins No. 37782353)
or
1447152M91 Turbocharger Assembly (Airesearch No. 465740-1). Used With Engine Serial Number 354UA16470T And Up. 740852M1 Gasket, Mounting. 742658M1 Manifold, Exhaust (Perkins No. 37782862)

A big can of worms!

o it looks to me like I would have to change manifolds to use the newer turbo. From what I have found, the intakes look to be the same. I guess the exhaust hole in the hood may be different

 

[Dieseltech]

There were early and late injection pumps too for both the 1130 and 1135. All had the 10 MM hydraulic head, the 1130 had the light quill shaft drive while the late engines used the heavy uprate drive like the 1135 used. The late 1130 and early 1135 both used the 3260F288 fixed phase pump, while the late 1135 used a pump that had an advance built in.

 

[ptfarmer]

If you could find the dimensions for the gasket your turbo to manifold uses, and what the dimensions are for the AirResearch turbo to manifold gasket. Just because they have different gasket part numbers doesn't 100% mean that the mounting is completely different, it could be just a different thickness, or different material gasket.

 

[ptfarmer]

You could also try calling AGCO Answers 1-877-525-4384, they maybe able to help in some way.

 

[pjflyer]

Were you able to figure anything out? I'm in the same situation and would like to go to the cheaper version of turbo if I can.