Farmall F-12 Value

[Bryce Frazier]

Thoughts on value? Engine turns over, last ran 4 or 5 years ago. Bryce

 

[F-Dean]

Looks a lot like a F-14. Check the serial number.

 

[Athol Carr]

It is a F-14, Note it has the hydraulic lift.

 

[Oldiron29]

Bryce, Not much value in 12 and 14 these days. I paid $250 for a 12 just like that a year ago saved it from scrap. On a 14 I would put it at $800-$1000. An F-14 with high speed rear would be worth more. All though in my area a steel wheel tractor like that is worth $800 for a lawn ornament. oldiron29

 

[SweetFeet]

That's a beauty.

Is it an F12 converted to an F14 (with hydraulics added)? Just wondering because up front it doesn't have the factory steering connection/knuckle that looks sort of like a U-joint. Or did early 14's not have that U-joint type of steering connection?

 

[Bryce Frazier]

He told me the serial is FS 96867. Sound right?

 

[Bryce Frazier]

I blew up the picture on my computer as good as I could, and I can fairly clearly read F-12 on that little decal on the side of the fuel tank.

 

[mschwartz]

I think it is too small for you, would fit in much better down at my place, ha, ha. As far as value the f series or any other hand crank tractors are not bringing much any more. Last couple that I have bought have been for the value of the tires or other options. Steel wheels look cool but that is about all. I have F12 with hydraulic lift so it could be modified to look like F14. If you get it and want to use it I would trade a set of F&H round spoke wheels for the steel wheels. Good luck, Mike

 

[Longknife]

F 12 Ser. #

1932 501
1933 526
1934 4881
1935 17411
1936 48660
1937 81837
1938 117518

 

[Bryce Frazier]

I'll keep that in mind. I want the M sitting next to it, but I think it is going to be a package deal. It is in Pullman. Would you want this one if I have to buy both and don't want to keep it?

 

[Jim Becker]

The hydraulic system was available (1936) for the F-12 before the F-14 came out (1938).

The other tractor in the picture looks like an orchard tractor.

 

[John M]

Its got an F14 engine, and F14 steering joint. IF its a 12, its not worth more than a few hundred. Could be a F14 with a F12 tank. Get the serial number of the tractor and engine and they should match.

 

[Bryce Frazier]

How can you tell that it is an F-14 engine? Just curious? I think that makes it worth less if it is patched together.

 

[John M]

Breather on the valve cover. Doesn't really mean its a 14 engine, but the 12s didn't have that.

 

[Athol Carr]

The early F-14 used a flexible fibre disk coupling to facilitate the bend in the shaft, not a universal joint.

 

[SweetFeet]

Thanks for the info.

 

[mschwartz]

Yes I would be interested, even if you want to keep it let me know when you come down I would love to go look at them with you. Time for fall work to be done so I can think about tractors for a few months.

 

[Bryce Frazier]

Sounds good! This guy is supposed to have one heck of a stash! LOTS of tractors / equipment. Was all his dads, but he passed away, and he is just selling off some of the misc stuff I guess. Very nice guy.

 

[36F30]

(quoted from post at 07:48:46 11/13/16) He told me the serial is FS 96867. Sound right?

The tractor is a 37 F12, April of 37. I have F12 FS97054 also built in April of 37. IH sold a field upgrade kit that included ALL the F14 parts confusing everyone. Vented valve cover, raised seat and steering, longer brake levers, everything was in the upgrade kit. I am slowly putting mine back to the correct F12 parts. They could bring up to $1500 in running condition in the right circles.

 

[Bryce Frazier]

Oh interesting?! Does the field upgrade kit make it any more valueable? Rarer? Kind of a neat story if nothing else.... Bryce

 

[36F30]

That tractor has a real nice set of steel on it, good spades and skid rings on the front and the lift, both make it desirable. If the block is uncracked and it was running, asking $1500 wouldn't be too far out of line to a serious pre 39 collector. There are lots of 12's that have had the the upgrades done either with the IH kit or with parts from other tractors, not really rare nor does it increase the value

 

[John M]

Havent saw but a few with the upgrade kit, but never saw one with it that had the breather. I'm curious as to what was done about the breather tube????

 

[Jim Becker]

The upgrade kit, as 36F30 said, included EVERYTHING to change an F-12 into a complete F-14. They even reserved a block of F-14 serial numbers for the kit. Since a serial number was included, I assume a serial number plate was as well. I would think a full conversion with the correct serial number would be a lot more valuable than an F-12 with a bunch of F-14 parts stuck on it. I don't know that I have ever seen one of the real thing.

 

[moll]

I had to buy a set of front steel this year and they cost me 300 dollars.
I sold my f-14 on full steel for 950 dollars just this year as a yard ornament without
sleeves, pistons and valves in it, couldn't get 600 dollars for it from a collector
after trying for about two years. It wasn't stuck and had all the parts to make it run
when i advertised it.

 

[36F30]

(quoted from post at 13:28:44 11/14/16) I had to buy a set of front steel this year and they cost me 300 dollars.
I sold my f-14 on full steel for 950 dollars just this year as a yard ornament without
sleeves, pistons and valves in it, couldn't get 600 dollars for it from a collector
after trying for about two years. It wasn't stuck and had all the parts to make it run
when i advertised it.

Thats the difference between running and not. Running driving tractor, you know everything is good. Non runner may mean a $250 mag rebuild, $50 carb rebuild, $65 fuel pump repair, Clutch $150, brakes $90. $140 gasket set, etc..etc.. Thats $745 of potential repairs plus more unknowns. Takes a $1500 running price to a $600 non runner real quick.

 

[Athol Carr]

Doesn't look like a F-4 magneto.

 

[36F30]

(quoted from post at 14:14:48 11/13/16) The early F-14 used a flexible fibre disk coupling to facilitate the bend in the shaft, not a universal joint.

Fairbanks Morse replacement, more reliable and hotter spark but no manual advance so they idle like crap. Got one on my F30, will absolutely light you up if your not careful. Sought after by pullers running his compression.