Farmall Super M Width?

[Bryce Frazier]

Hi all, think I just bought a Super M, but I need to know how wide it is? If I narrowed the rear wheels up all the way, what am I looking at?

Also, it has a later SM-TA / 400 wide front on it, what is the narrowest I could get that? Thanks, Bryce

 

[Nate V. IA]

It should easily go on a deck over trailer as is. I'm not sure on the dimensions but I do know on the rear wheels you have to run one wheel all the way in on the axle and take the other wheel off and spin it around and run it all the way in on the axle to fit on a car trailer. That's assuming both wheels were "dished" out to begin with. If the front axle wont fit as is, good luck trying to get it to narrow it in the field, they are notorious for being rusted in place.

Nate

 

[Bryce Frazier]

That is the problem, we have a 10,000 GVW Car Hauler. It is 20 feet long, and i think it has 80 inches of clearance between the two fenders, but I am not sure! Bryce

 

[John M]

That trailer is a little light for a Super M.

 

[glennster]

Bryce, just a heads up, check the tire to be sure it is not filled with liquid ballast before you try and flip the tire around. They are heavy!!!

 

[showcrop]

Bryce, your activities are appearing to indicate the need for a deck-over trailer in your near future. If you can find one that is low clearance where there is deck plate as opposed to planks over the tires, the deck is about four inches lower which is great in loading and unloading. 2X on the wheels rusted to the axles.

 

[dej(Jed)]

Bryce

My 10,000 lb car hauler is 82" wide between the wheel wells.
I need to turn one wheel around, with the dish in. Even with the wheels slid in,with out turning them, you will still be at about 86" in width. We have run up on 2x8 blocks and let the rims over hang the fenders. If I do that though I flatten the back tires to lower the center of gravity somewhat. A 10,000 lb trailer is plenty big enough to haul a SM. Even with fluid in the tires you will only weigh about 7000 lbs.

 

[mkirsch]

Yup, no way an M will fit on a lowboy without flipping at least one wheel around so it's dished in.

Front end is going to be nigh on impossible to narrow up in the field, unless you are extremely lucky and it's been run loose. Can you back the tractor on the trailer with the front end up to the fenders?

 

[Meangreen]

Removable fenders is how I loaded my M on my trailer (best $110 I ever spent), but understanding that is not an option in your case I ended up turning both wheels around on my tractor and narrowing to 78" so it would fit on my 82" wide trailer. When it was 86" wide I also used my winch to load since I figured there was less of a chance of getting off center.

 

[Bryce Frazier]

Well, I really badly wanted to buy the neighbors 15,000 GVW 3 axle deck over. It is a 24 foot, with a liftable 4 foot dove tail. Goose Neck. It is old school, home built in the 70's, but it is one he!! of a trailer!!!

He told me he would sell it to me for $1200, but my parents won't hear of me putting a Goose Neck Ball in the back of the big truck.... They haven't seen the light of a gooseneck yet!!!

Oh well, thats the way it goes right!?! I personally don't even want to try to flip the rear wheels around, because the second we get it home, we are just going to have to flip them around again!!!

One thought might be though, if I put big wood blocks like some one said, against the fenders, and then backed the tractor up and over the fenders, and stopped with the rear wheels on one side, and the front on the other... Might just work huh? Bryce

 

[Mike (WA)]

I have hauled over-width tractors on my car trailer by loading them from the front. Disconnect trailer from truck; lower the front onto blocks you put under the front corners of the trailer (to keep hitch off the ground); remove the tongue jack (3 bolts); put your ramps on the front, and drive tractor on forwards; reinstall jack, and away you go. It will be balanced pretty well if you put the tractor rear wheels up against the front of the trailer fenders.

If your front wheels are too wide to go between the fenders, that's a problem. As others have said, good luck getting them adjusted, they're usually rusted/jammed in place.

 

[Bryce Frazier]

Can't do that, we have a big locking steel box that was built into the frame of the trailer. We keep all of our straps/chains/binders/ etc in it...

I think that I can but some big blocks 4x6 or x8, not sure on the trailer, and make them so that they are the same shape as the fenders, then I will back the tractor onto the trailer, up and over the blocks, and thus I will be past the fenders with the rear wheels, and the front's will be on the opposite side of the fenders?!?! Seems logical! Bryce

 

[Mike (WA)]

If I was going to drive over the top of the fenders, I'd want to do it with the front wheels, not the rear- much less dangerous because you can see what you're doing and steer, and front is not as heavy. Sounds a little dicey, no matter how you do it!

 

[smash59]

You can get the rear tires to fit between the fenders. I have a super m that fits between fenders. My rear tires the dish on the rims faces inside. Hope that helps

 

[glennster]

bryce, how far do you have to move the tractor? if it rolls ok, you can make a drawbar to mount on the front lower bolster and tow it home. at 10 mph or so, it may take a while, but prolly a lot quicker than foolin with trailers and such.

 

[Bryce Frazier]

About 2 hours away on a free way, so 70 mph! NOT gonna pull that home! Good idea though...

It does run and drive, so 20 mph? Maybe? Bryce

 

[mkirsch]

(quoted from post at 08:59:17 09/04/14) If I was going to drive over the top of the fenders, I'd want to do it with the front wheels, not the rear- much less dangerous because you can see what you're doing and steer, and front is not as heavy. Sounds a little dicey, no matter how you do it!

Yeah.... No.

If you do that you are almost certainly guaranteed that the trailer will sway badly and put you straight in the ditch. Probably upside down.

Ideally you want the rear wheels of the tractor directly over the trailer axles if you drive on.

Turning one wheel around isn't that bad. Once you get the bolts loose you can walk the wheel off by raising and lowering the jack. A couple of strong guys can spin it around, and then you just walk it back on.