Farmall unidentified

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Can someone tell me what year/model this is?
I recently acquired it from my aging neighbor and he doesn't know a whole lot about it other than he thinks its a 1953
Wouldn't start, no spark, installed a new coil, good spark now, fires if you dump some gas down the air intake but wont stay running, next step I think is to remove, clean, rebuild the carb.

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

Most likely an International I4. Definitely not a Farmall. Still a very neat tractor. They didn't make a whole lot of those either.

Have fun with it. It should serve you well....

with proper care, of course.

Go through it with the gas engine tuneup/cleanup basics & that should weed out a number of issues.

Mike

 

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OK, very helpful, thanks Mike

 

[rustred]

its a W4 McCormick. piles of them tractors built. you want to verify ,... look on the serial number tag in front of the starter. will give
the model and serial number then can find out what year it is.

 

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Ok, i will be up at the cabin this weekend and will check for the serial #, thanks

 

[DeltaRed]

Yes,it is a W/O/I 4. Same engine as in a Farmall H, Made from '39 to '52/3.IH easily made over a half million of that engine(C152).Lots of parts out there. Need serial numbers. to tell the year,
However,there are casting codes in the major castings. It will look like this: 10*4*S.(Oct 4,1949) The letter designates year,it changes every year. Find that and post back.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

W4 or.... SUPER W4.

The previous owner did say it was a 1953, and if he's remembering accurately, it could be either.

Can't tell from the picture. Either the emblem holes in the grille have been filled in, OR the picture is not clear enough to show them. Two wide-spaced holes oriented horizontally in the "bonnet" would indicate the McCORMICK (DEERING) emblem and point to the tractor as a W4. Two close-spaced holes oriented vertically in the center of the bonnet would indicate the IH logo emblem and heavily lean towards it being a Super W4. Of course parts interchange so anything could be with anything at this point...

The main indication of which model it is will be the brakes. A W4 will have band brakes with "tin pan" covers over the brakes. A Super W4 will have disc brakes with heavy cast covers over the brakes.

 

[John M]

Not an orchard of any version, rear fenders look I4ish to me, not W4. Dont pour gas down the air cleaner, theres supposed to oil in the bottom of it.

 

[rustred]

this is the tag u need to look at. this is my 1953 w4 near the end of production #34113 . it has everything the supers have disc brakes,
seal beam lights, super hubs, super starter and rod, no push switch. basically everything except the big super carb for the increased bore
in the supers. and also the supers only have a 4 digit serial number because not that many made and there is an S in front of the W4 . while the standard w4 has 5 digits in the
serial number. and no its not O4 or I4. the orchard has exhaust under the hood out the front of tractor and it is very narrow as u barely
fit between the fenders i have one also. and its not an I4 either. so that leaves the w4 as i can see. the front hubs tell the story its not
a super.

 

[rustred]

ooh, and the orchard model is a hand clutch.

 

[Red Mercury]

rustred is correct, it is a W-4. I have a couple of them in my inventory of unfinished projects.

It is definitely not a Super W-4, nor is it a I-4 or O-4.

W-4's are not particularly rare. IH made roughly one W-4 to ten Farmall H's.

This post was edited by Red Mercury on 10/04/2023 at 09:01 pm.

 

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Ok, this is all great information.
I will be heading to my camp this weekend where i keep the tractor and will look for the tag. Stay tuned.

 

[Pembroke]

Sir: Before I'd bother the carb I'd check and see if getting any gas TO the carb first. Tank may be stopped up or line to carb may be stopped up. The carb would be the last thing I'd work on. Isn't there a plug in bottom of carb to open and see if gas is making it into the carb? What about filter going into the carb, could it be plugged up? Just some things I'd look at before taking carb apart. Good luck with your tractor and have fun with it.

 

[Pembroke]

This post was edited by Pembroke on 10/05/2023 at 01:44 pm.

 

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ok, when i open the drain on the bottom of the carb, fuel flows out, so bowl is full.
Also, i found the serial #, its 13956

 

[rustred]

that makes it an early 1946 and it will also say W4 on that tag, right ?, actually its the 22nd tractor made in 1946. there was over
33,000 of the 4 models built from 1939-1953. does the fuel keep flowing though is the key, you can have it trickling out but not enough to
keep the tractor running on a hard pull. disconnect the line from carb and observe a full flow of gas running out. then you know your good.
plus there is a screen in that brass fitting to check and clean. i like to catch the carb gas in a clean can that way can see how much junk
is in the carb.

 

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Yes, its say W-4 on the tag as well.
It actually wont start using the fuel in the carb at all, i need to dump gas down the intake to get it to fire, only runs momentarily. I think the gas in the carb is bad or contaminated, will drain and start fresh. I am not at my cabin were the tractor is very often so will be a bit before i try again. thanks for the info and advice.