ferguson two bottom plow?

[Geo-TH,In]

Do ferguson two bottom plows have a rear wheel? If not do other Ford two bottom plows have a rear wheel? If I just want to plow a garden spot with my Jubilee, is it that important to have a rear wheel? Thanks for your input.Geo

 

[Bobrh]

Yes they did, I have an early 2-14 that came with a parts tractor I bought and someone had replaced the wheel with a staight steel piece that skids along the furrow. It is about 15 inches long and three or 4 inches high.(it works). The furrow wheel helps keep the plow from pulling over to the left and leaves a cleaner furrow.

Gary

 

[Billy NY]

Yes and yes, well the gauge wheel is seemingly important for depth control, though you can work around it. I don't think the draft control functions on my 850 and the 2 bottom ferguson I used, someone broke the tail wheel off, though I have the parts, don't use this plow with a 2020 JD, (hint my friends dad did and broke the wheel off it) LOL well it could be repaired. Aside from that once you get the plow adjusted and set up properly, for the most part it seems you can get decent results, I did a fair amount of plowing with that one, before I got my own, a single bottom Ford 110 series, I think its a 16, sure looks big and heavy, I like it, though the 2 bottom covers more ground, and would be much better for larger areas.

As you can see, no tail wheel, missing 1 coulter and if you look close at the 3 pt arms, the left is lower, my level box was seized, so again due to time constraints I worked around it, but it sure was nice once that level box was repaired. In some places I plowed with it, it was a royal pain in the @ss, sometimes the plow was digging in too deep, it would stop the tractor, you can get some widely varying results when things are not right. I think when dealing with sod, you will need both coulters, tail wheel and it adjusted properly, meaning leveled in the furrow and set laterally to the furrow/tractor ( side to side ), so you get the correct alignment to completely turn over the sod, something which I've yet to do with that single bottom I now have. I need to adjust it on the tool bar (tube steel), once you have adjusted one of these properly, and see how it works, it's a no brainer, though the point/share ? (terminology) needs to be sharp not dulled and worn, especially in drier soils that have clay and or sod. The single bottom I have does have a gauge wheel, not a tail wheel, but I believe for the same purpose, depth control, if your tractor does not have draft control, I took it off as I adjust the draft manually, my tractor does pull it nicely and gives you enough time to react when it lugs a bit. I have enjoyed doing a bit of plowing, not sure why, always seems fun when doing these little areas.

Another tidbit, is I am plowing against the slope, and still got decent results, though this area was worked before, the soil is deep dark top soil/loam, very few rocks, was a big garden for 30 years or more, I plowed it for the neigbhor, 1x then disc'd, then plowed again because I could not get good results the 1st time, as it was sod, weeds etc., I seeded it down with grass seed, mulched with rye straw that had plenty of rye grains in it, the following spring I had a cover crop of rye, with the grass below it, cut that rye back 2x and the grass came in thick.

 

[Dave Warden]

Power Tiller wuold save on discing and re plowing, if the money is there, about 1400 bucks now for a King Kutter. neigbhor wanted me to plo aspot, IN THE SPRING. Plowed it up it was sod then tilled with power tiller. Well did have him run over with his disk just to help spread out the furrows come to think of it. It powderd up great.

 

[Brian Allen]

Bill
Might be a good idea to get some fenders installed; so no-one gets hurt or killed.
Be tractor safe
Brian

 

[Billy NY]

I agree, though it does not bother me as the tires are just are not close enough, but one thing you do not ever want to do on this tractor is forget you don't have them and reach for something while moving. I've never had any trouble or concerns without them, though I'd prefer to have a set installed.

Problem is the 4 pt hitch attached to the rear axle and wagner loader where it meets, looks like a home fabricated deal for a hoe, and fenders don't seem to fit in, I'd need to get a set and see whats what and if I could some how alter or fabricate some brackets. I'm big on safety and often times get mocked for it at our farm when I work there.

I have seen the results of someone getting bumped off a 640 while mowing with a rotary cutter, under different circumstances, you just cannot imagine what that does to a human body. In that respect, I take lots of care when doing the same with this tractor, been 8 years now, not sure how long its been without fenders, when I got it, the tractor was ready for the scrap heap, well almost ! I've never had any issues without them being on, but again I agree, would be better with them on, if I could figure out how to fasten them with what is there now.

 

[Billy NY]

I agree, I've used one of those a few times, once you have broken the sod, 3 pt tiller sure is nice if you have a tractor with the right gears to run it.

 

[old]

Problem is most fords like his Jubilee does not go slow enough in 1st gear to be able to use a tiller behind them. We tried one on our 841 and boy what a joke doing that was. The tiller just bounced around behind the tractor and didn't do any thing but waste gas

 

[old]

Geo I think it would depend on the model of the plow. I know the one I have does not have a wheel and it is a Ferg. 2-16C-AO28 Nice heavy well built plow

 

[Geo-TH,In]

Thanks, I thought they had rear wheels, someone tried to tell me otherwise. After posting the question I found a parts list for an old ferguson 2 botom plow and it showed a rear wheel. thanks again, george.

 

[RodinNS]

Our 2x10" Ferguson-Sherman has a furrow wheel. I think all of them did... or at least as many as I've seen have had the wheel.
It acts mainly in addition to the land side.
I would not consider it very critical on a plow that size if it's set correctly.
A correctly set plow should pull straight and not lay over on it's side, so there's really no need for the wheel to hold it straight.

Rod