Ford 2N plow depth

[rbuckel42055]

Dumb question, but how do I control plow depth(2-12 inch breaking plow) with 2N?

 

[Den N Ms]

Rbucke.By putt[ng a stop on the lift quadrant for the down depth.

 

[R Geiger]

(quoted from post at 09:56:38 09/14/11) Rbucke.By putt[ng a stop on the lift quadrant for the down depth.

This works on a 2n without position control? On a 8n with position control you should be using draft control for plowing so you would not have position contorl either. Maybe I am confused.

 

[Den N Ms]

A 9N-2N has draft control only,Thats what you use when plowing,and other ground engaging equipment.

 

[R Geiger]

I realize that, what I am confused about is using a down stop on any of them to control how deep the plow goes. Is that not just trying to use position control?I have been studying the book and having trouble getting my mind wrapped around it. I thought that the dept was controlled by the draft control function and by how the plow was set up..
It has been close to 50 years since i plowed with a 3 point. Just curious.
Bob

 

[Ultradog MN]

Look at it this way.
Draft control is a function of how hard the tractor is pulling.
On a 3 point plow the harder the tractor has to pull to get it through the ground the harder the plow is going to push on the big spring on the back and on the linkage inside.
In draft mode setting that stop on the touch control handle is not actually setting the depth of the plow - though it does seem so. It is setting how hard the spring gets pushed before the hydraulics automatically raises the plow a little.
Let's say in soft soil the plow pulls easily so thet you set the stop 1/3 up from the bottom. Let's say the plow goes 6" deep.
Now at the same setting move to some very hard ground. Now the plow may only plow 3" deep. In both cases the "push" on the spring is the same.

 

[R Geiger]

(quoted from post at 11:38:26 09/14/11) Look at it this way.
Draft control is a function of how hard the tractor is pulling.
On a 3 point plow the harder the tractor has to pull to get it through the ground the harder the plow is going to push on the big spring on the back and on the linkage inside.
In draft mode setting that stop on the touch control handle is not actually setting the depth of the plow - though it does seem so. It is setting how hard the spring gets pushed before the hydraulics automatically raises the plow a little.
Let's say in soft soil the plow pulls easily so thet you set the stop 1/3 up from the bottom. Let's say the plow goes 6" deep.
Now at the same setting move to some very hard ground. Now the plow may only plow 3" deep. In both cases the "push" on the spring is the same.

Ok this makes sense to me. I knida of like to know how things work.
thanks for making it clear.
Bob

 

[Ultradog MN]

If you want a real mind bender consider this:
On the 1976 and newer Fords - one series newer than your 2110 ie 2600, 3600 etc they have two handles there. Using them together will give you draft WITH position control. I haven't figured that one out yet.

 

[Hobo,NC]

I push the control leaver almost all the way down to get the plow in the ground,,, once it bits and lugs the tractor i pull up on the leaver till I find the dept I want are till the tractor plows and does not lug the tractor... The stop is adjusted and used only as a reference point... Draft is adjustable by the user,,, your ground will determine how heavy the draft can be set... Once you find the sweet spot you want the internal hydraulics will work to maintain the setting you chose... Once you get use to it and learn to plow usually all you need to do is go to the sweet spot you have chosen with the stop... New ground is more difficult to plow (least around here) Once I have hit a spot a few years run'n its no problem...

 

[jackinok]

just back wards,push the lever down until plow just drops,if you need it deeper push lever down very slightly.set your stop when you have it as deep as you want it,(or as deep as soil conditions permit)heres news for you, you DONT set the depth!what you set is the draft.plow and setup on plow sets the depth,on every plow on every tractor,what you set is the draft ,the amount of resistance to forward motion you allow before automatic controls raises plow to decrease it.toplink in most cases sets depth,plow will try to dig in until its level.this is called plow suction.and this is what holds plow down.if shares are worn out plow loses suction.it wont penetrate well,and will porpoise through the ground continually hunting its level place.adjusting the top link shorter,turns point down allowing it to penetrate better and most folks dont realize this is the one sole purpose of a adjustable toplink.to make up for wear on plow shares.every other piece of equipment you can hook to one of these tractors works just as well or better with the proper length solid toplink.almost all screw type toplinks ruined or worn out pull apart.they work on a plow because your draft control senses compresion not pull.

 

[jackinok]

I should have said i do it back wards from hobo,dang typing finger is cutting out on me this morning!

 

[Lumpy]

I plow 7-8" deep with a 2x14 behind my 2n. But thats in Iowa black dirt. Run 2nd gear, wide open and yes, my tires are loaded with used engine anti-freeze. I've never spun out! but I've stalled the engine and carried the front wheels a foot off the ground many times before.

 

[jackinok]

been there myownself a time or two!lol,i dont have much problem getting one deep enough in my old blowsand,except for that one particular place where a solid sand rock shelf is just about two inches under the ground,talk about bringing one to a abrupt halt,especially plowing at night when its cooler and you lose track of where it is!LOL I swear if i were rich instead of so good looking i would hire someone to blow that thing out with dynamite.old disc plow isnt so bad ,but its just right for a moldboard to hook under.

 

[oldtanker]

I plowed 11 acres with my 8N and 2-24 plow this spring. 3 acres was stuff that I had plowed before, 2nd gear about 6" and WOT. THe other 8 was no tilled by a guy for a couple of years and had some compaction because of that. I had to go in 1st for that. I'm in snady loam and do not have loaded tires or weights.....yet!

Rick

 

[Ultradog MN]

Here you go Jack.
Use the arrows to page through the book.
Farming with Dynamite

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 15:22:53 09/14/11) Here you go Jack.
Use the arrows to page through the book.
Farming with Dynamite

'm convinced! Where can I buy?
:twisted:

 

[jackinok]

why in the world do we own a tractor ? i need to get me some of that!think homeland security would understand when they came out and you told them you were plowing?thats my kind of farming right there,set on the front porch with a mint julep and plow a hundred acres a minute.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 16:06:30 09/14/11) why in the world do we own a tractor ? i need to get me some of that!think homeland security would understand when they came out and you told them you were plowing?thats my kind of farming right there,set on the front porch with a mint julep and plow a hundred acres a minute.

e would give old Janet a heart attack!

 

[R Geiger]

(quoted from post at 04:52:27 09/15/11)

(quoted from post at 15:22:53 09/14/11) Here you go Jack.
Use the arrows to page through the book.
Farming with Dynamite

'm convinced! Where can I buy?
:twisted:

When I was growing the local grocery store sold it, had it stored in the back of the store. In around 60 they made him build a powder shed out back. We used a lot of stumping powder in those days getting rid of large Douglas Fir stumps. The largest blast we had was 52 1/4 sticks. Sure made a nice hole!! Up until the house was sold in 74 there was a box of caps and a roll of fuse in the cupboard over the refrigerator in the kitchen. Just the way it was done!

 

[rbuckel42055]

I appreciate all the comments. Now I think I understand how draft control functions.

 

[Hobo,NC]

http://www.theviperr.info/hobo_dnn/Default.aspx?tabid=79

When you figger out how jackinok plows in reverse let us know

 

[jackinok]

put the moldboards on backwards !you can plow right up into the corners that way!