Ford 4000 problem

[Daryl in PA]

Some of you may remember the pic of the 4000 i posted several weeks back. Today i decided to run her to the pressure washer for a bath, about 5 miles round trip. Don't know anything about the SOS transmission, but everything seemed fine till i got back to the house. Pushed clutch in to back her into the garage and NOTHING! No forward or reverse gears. Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks
Daryl

 

[Sean in PA]

There is a lever on the side of the tractor called the "traction disconnect lever" which disengages the output of the transmission from the differential. It is used for towing the tractor when it is not running and for performing the S-O-S pump pressure tests which need to be done while the tractor is running and in gear, but with the tractor itself stationary. Your lever may have moved from the connected position to the disconnected position.

I don't remember your previous post so I'm not sure if you have the earlier 4 cylinder 4000 or the later 3 cylinder model. On the 3 cylinder model, the traction disconnect lever is on the right side of the center housing behind and below where your right heel is when you're sitting on the tractor., and when it's in the "up" position the differential is disconnected form the transmission, and when it is in the "down" position it is connected.

I'm not sure which side the lever is on the 4 ylinder models, btu I'm sure that someone who knows will chime in soon.

 

[john_Bud]

On the 4 cyl it"s on the left side by the PTO lever.

If the disconnect lever is in the correct position,
the collar may have come loose and then slipped to
one side or the other.

or ...

The input shaft or clutch could be your issue. Hope
and pray it"s the disconnect!

 

[Daryl in PA]

(quoted from post at 13:57:08 05/01/12) On the 4 cyl it"s on the left side by the PTO lever.

If the disconnect lever is in the correct position,
the collar may have come loose and then slipped to
one side or the other.

or ...

The input shaft or clutch could be your issue. Hope
and pray it"s the disconnect!

This is a 62 4 cylinder...... PTO lever? The PTO is engaged by pulling a t-handle on below right side of dash.

 

[Sean in PA]

Right, the T-handle on the lower right dash is the correct PTO control for an S-O-S with the independent PTO. He was talking about where the PTO handle is on the manual transmission models with the live or transmission driven PTO models. There should be a large round plate on the left side behind where your left heel is when you sit on the tractor,. The drive line disengage lever should be near that round plate somewhere.

 

[Daryl in PA]

(quoted from post at 15:38:29 05/01/12) Right, the T-handle on the lower right dash is the correct PTO control for an S-O-S with the independent PTO. He was talking about where the PTO handle is on the manual transmission models with the live or transmission driven PTO models. There should be a large round plate on the left side behind where your left heel is when you sit on the tractor,. The drive line disengage lever should be near that round plate somewhere.

This plate?..........took some pics. as you can see , there's no way this lever moved.

Tonite, after letting everything cool down, i went thru the gears. NOTHING until i hit 6th. Then the tractor would move forward. I was able to get her to the carport, where she sitting till i find more info. Know anyone in PA who works on these animals?

 

[showcrop]

(quoted from post at 15:55:09 05/01/12)

(quoted from post at 15:38:29 05/01/12) Right, the T-handle on the lower right dash is the correct PTO control for an S-O-S with the independent PTO. He was talking about where the PTO handle is on the manual transmission models with the live or transmission driven PTO models. There should be a large round plate on the left side behind where your left heel is when you sit on the tractor,. The drive line disengage lever should be near that round plate somewhere.

This plate?..........took some pics. as you can see , there's no way this lever moved.

Tonite, after letting everything cool down, i went thru the gears. NOTHING until i hit 6th. Then the tractor would move forward. I was able to get her to the carport, where she sitting till i find more info. Know anyone in PA who works on these animals?

There is a fellow in Luray VA that does a lot with them and stocks a lot of parts.

 

[Ncorrigible]

I have an 871 and would start with the Ford Tractor Shop Manual (1955-1960) for the very best SOS trouble shooting information on my tractor. If your tractor is newer, I am sure the newer model shop manual is just as good. If you do not want to mess with it, Luray Va can't be much more than a couple hundred miles away. I don't know of anyone near that close to me so I expect to learn when my turn comes.

The N Tractor Club site sells a CD with all the SOS service bulletins, but that is not really worthwhile without the shop manual. The shop manual should be available on eBay.

I have my 871 because the original owner had it stop in its tracks in the middle of his field. The hydraulic pressure line had ruptured. Easy fix for the right guy who bought it, fixed it, then sold it to me. Yours seems to be a bit more of a challenge, but not insurmountable.

 

[reb-in-pa]

Daryl --

Be certain what version SOS you have before you start testing or tearing it apart. You said it was an 871, which would have an Over Running Clutch (ORC). But, your picture shows a blue tractor with a hood decal ending in "0". That makes me wonder if you have an early model 4000, which would have a Direct Drive Clutch. There are differences in their operation. In case you don't already know, the model number should be among the numbers that are stamped on the flat spot just aft of your starter. If you're unsure what they mean, post back. Once you know for sure which model you have, you'll need to get a manual, at least one pressure gauge with the fittings to get onto the test ports, and your thinking cap to follow the test procedures outlined in the manual.

Good luck, and let us know how you make out.

Ray

 

[Sean in PA]

Ray - Daryl, the original poster, said he has a 4 cylinder 4000. It was Ncorrigible who said that he had a 871 in his reply.

Daryl - If it works in some gears and not others then it's definitely not the drive line disconnect. The shop manual is definitely the next step for you, or getting the tractor to someone who knows how to work on the S-O-S.

 

[Larry NCKS]

Arthur's Tractors, Indiana, PA. http://www.arthurstractors.com/

be prepared to spend the big bucks if you use them, though!

 

[reb-in-pa]

Sean --

Thanks. That'll be a lesson for me about trying to think before my second cup of coffee. . .

Ray

 

[Tequila]

With the correct manual go thru the pressure checks then
make sure your shift cable is working properly. Arthur's
tractors would be my very last resort unless your into being
severely molested.