Ford 4000

[OH - 961]

DollarBill and souNdguy -

Saw the photos of your 4000's and I don't see a vertical exhaust?
I thought that a vertical exhaust was pretty much standard on these.
How is it routed to get it underneath the tractor, if that is the way yours is set up?
I have a 961 with a vertical pipe that I would like to change, because the noise is all at ear level for the operator. A bit loud to suit me.

Myron

 

[Fordfarmer]

I used to have a 971 with a horizontal exhaust. It's
a tight fit, but the exhaust pipe runs between the
gen. pulley and fan shroud, inside the frame rail.
Don't have a pic showing it, or I'd post it.
Another option might be to put an angled tip on your
verticle pipe, and point it away from you - forward
and slightly to the left. It can make quite a
difference.

 

[Larry NCKS]

If you look closely at souNdguy's pic, you'll see just a stub pipe off the front of the muffler. I'd think thatr might be even worse than your vertical stack.

 

[DollarBill]

How is it routed to get it underneath the tractor

My exhaust has a 90 degree turn out in front of the muffler - Just like Soundguy's.

A good muffler shop can bend the pipe to route it out the rear - I'm planning a similar set up as in the photo but moving the muffler beneath the running board like the N's.

Horizontal exhaust was an OEM offering and the pipe is available aftermarket but it comes in a couple of sections and is plain pipe that will require painting to prevent rust.

 

[showcrop]

My 960 came with a down exhaust and my recollection from the '60s was that the Fords that I was around had down pipes. They are still available and have a section that is flattened a little in order to fit ahead of the belt. As dollar bill says they appear to be plain thin steel that will require attention if you want to keep them looking good.

 

[souNdguy]

Naw.. it works great.

No stack to catch tree limbs, and no exhaust out the back while you are hitching an implement.

I't blown out the left and safely awaf from my face.

Why always a negative comment to me? go pick on somebody else for a change.

soundguy

 

[souNdguy]

I gon't prefer stacks, or at least.. i don't usually convert to a stack due to mowing around limbs.

The 00/01 series came standard with underslung exhaust out the back .. same for the rowcrops.

I left that one angled out to the side as I'm behind that 4000 hitching stuff up alot.. and as a rowcrop, it puts the muffler in yer face.

I did that to my 541 as well.

here are some pics of my 950.. showing how the muffler goes up front. as well as some lower pics as well.

don't mind the small 11.2-28 rubber on the 950.. she only wore that temporarilly while I rehabilitated here Power adjust rims.. took me all winter to do them.. but now she is back on a set of 14.9-28's and standing pretty tall.

soundguy

 

[sotxbill]

Your fuel line looks a bit close to the muffler, but I am sure its just the picture angle.

oh..

and "your mama wears combat boots"... :roll:

My insult for the day.

I bet your neighbors enjoy watching your parade of tractors.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 09:01:16 09/29/11) Your fuel line looks a bit close to the muffler, but I am sure its just the picture angle.

oh..

and "your mama wears combat boots"... :roll:

My insult for the day.

I bet your neighbors enjoy watching your parade of tractors.

ot to worry, sotxbill, the fuel hose is too soft to rub a hole in exhaust. :wink:

 

[Dean]

Nine series tractors were sold with both horizontal and vertical exhaust systems.

The horizontal exhaust pipe runs inside of the frame rail as is shown in SouNdguy's photos.

You will probably not find a muffler shop to bend this pipe for you as it is oval in cross section where it passes in front of the generator pulley.

Correctly formed horizontal exhaust and tail pipes are modestly priced and readily available from several sources.

Note: S-O-S equipped tractors use a different tail pipe than do non S-O-S tractors.

A readily available deflector attached to the end of the tailpipe reduces any fume/hitch-up issues.

Dean

 

[DollarBill]

You will probably not find a muffler shop to bend this pipe for you as it is oval in cross section where it passes in front of the generator pulley.

Dean, is this something that could be accomplished by flattening out that particular section of pipe - Like with a vice? Reason for asking is I like the idea of using aluminized pipe that muffler shops have available as opposed to the plain pipe most vendors are using. I do like the mandrel bends tho.

 

[mike1972chev]

My exaust guy did did a good job using alumatized steel tubing.(I know it is a 600,but similar to build to a 900 series)(Because I wasnt gonna buy that plain steel aftermarket junk,it will not last NEAR as long.)

 

[souNdguy]

must be camera angle.. fuel line has plenty of clearance last time I looked at it.. must be nearly 4" or so.

soundguy

 

[Dean]

I'm sure that you could flatten it a bit but it would not appear like the factory formed pipes.

I installed the regular aftermarket horizontal exhaust on my 55 860 in 1995, and it is showing no signs of age aside from surface rust.

Dean

 

[mike1972chev]

Non coated steel tubing not only will rust on the outside,but will deteriorate on the INSIDE even more.(due to fuel and exaust gasses.)They literally rot from the INSIDE!

 

[OH - 961]

Thanks to all of you for sharing pictures and ideas.

DollarBill,

The photo of your exhaust is something like I had in mind, but I would like to get the muffler out from under the hood as well. I just haven't figured out yet if it will be practical to do it. It might end up too close to the carb and starter.

I wish my 961 looked as nice as yours, but I bought it to mow with, and not a show tractor. Kind of hard to keep it spiffy when it is stored outdoors.

Myron

 

[GT65]

Hope this helps OH-961
Hint:If image appears too small or large just push Ctrl button(extreme lower left) and + or - button.No need to "click" on anything.This works on anything you want to magnify.
GT65

 

[DollarBill]

I would like to get the muffler out from under the hood as well. I just haven't figured out yet if it will be practical to do it.

Myron, the 961 isn't mine - Saw the pix on Ebay and glommed onto it for posterity.

This one is mine - I've included the photo to show my plan for muffler location: