Ford 5000, 1969 model, using draft control

[paul]

I have a semi mount 3-16 JD plow that matches my diesel Ford 5200 really well in my tough soils. A gas version, or older more worn tractor I sure wouldn’t want to try 4 bottoms, and even 3-16 could be a lot in my tough soils. Of course my semi mount wouldn’t use the depth control, no top link…

Put it in draft control. Leave it there.

Pull the 3pt lever all the way up and it will raise the plow.

Move the 3pt lever down to the depth you want to plow and leave it there. The linkages will adjust the depth up and down a bit as you plow so the tractor doesn’t get bogged down in tough areas.

Lift the 3pt lever when you get to the other end.

Really never have to use the draft lever while plowing. You set it in draft mode and leave it there.


Do be careful if you are off the tractor working on the plow. We shouldn’t go under a raised implement anyhow, but in draft mode it is more possible for the linkage to get moved and the plow go up or down on its own without warning. It more dangerous if it is in draft mode……

Paul

 

[paul]

Some 5000’s and all 7000’s were equipped with Load Monitor that had a separate lever with multiple positions for that system
The standard 5000 3 point has a selector lever that one flipped up or down to select whether the lift control lever operated in position control or draft control mode. Once draft control is selected the lift control is used to raise, lower and select the amount of draft sensitivity to obtain the desired plowing depth
Once the proper depth is set an adjustable stop is set to make this adjustment repetitive

The load monitor was able to use semi mount plows, it controlled the 3pt and the cylinder on the tail wheel. It was a special Ford hyd cylinder.

Paul

 

[sunnyfield]

Any Ford from 1975 and older had that setup, beginning with the 76 models Ford went to dual levers eliminating the selector lever under the seat

And i am in a position to purchase new tires for said 5000. Any suggestion on size? Sounds like they are $1000 each from LeSchwab. Should i stick with 18.4-34 if i decide to use a 16" plow bottom or get narrower tires if available? There is so much i don't know as far as these decisions! I do appreciate all the experience on this thread. I run a Goat Dairy and am getting in to plowing "late" in life. I'm 44 and there is not that many experienced farmers around to bounce things off of here on Lopez Island, WA.

 

[Keith Williams]

And i am in a position to purchase new tires for said 5000. Any suggestion on size? Sounds like they are $1000 each from LeSchwab. Should i stick with 18.4-34 if i decide to use a 16" plow bottom or get narrower tires if available? There is so much i don't know as far as these decisions! I do appreciate all the experience on this thread. I run a Goat Dairy and am getting in to plowing "late" in life. I'm 44 and there is not that many experienced farmers around to bounce things off of here on Lopez Island, WA.

Rule of thumb is tires can be 2 inches wider than plow. So, 18 inch is fine with 16 inch plow.
I ran 18.4-34 on a 7000 pulling 4 bottom 16 inch mounted plows. When the ground got hard, I sometimes had to take one off (3 X 16).
It all depends on the ground.
Keith

 

[Ray,IN]

This thread concerns a Ford 3600, talking about draft and position control levers: https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/threads/education-draft-control-vs-position-control.1765199/
I used to plow using position control instead of draft control as explained. I was frequently getting my tractor hung on hard-pan because the draft control was not used. Like you I began asking questions and was told draft control is for underground implements and position control for above ground implements, but there are a few exceptions .

This is for a Ferguson but visualizes what is happening when plowing.


This assumes the plow is properly positioned and leveled beforehand. When the plow is angled into the ground the results are increased fuel consumption, harder pulling, and shoddy looking plowed field. when tilted up in front you cannot keep the plow in the ground, and furrow depth even.
The original Ferguson top link had notches on each sliding side to help with proper length adjustment to get the plow to run level in the ground.

 

[Leroy]

And i am in a position to purchase new tires for said 5000. Any suggestion on size? Sounds like they are $1000 each from LeSchwab. Should i stick with 18.4-34 if i decide to use a 16" plow bottom or get narrower tires if available? There is so much i don't know as far as these decisions! I do appreciate all the experience on this thread. I run a Goat Dairy and am getting in to plowing "late" in life. I'm 44 and there is not that many experienced farmers around to bounce things off of here on Lopez Island, WA.

I had 15.5 X 38 and very few around here with your size wheels. Were not good for row crop farming. With your wheels you are stuck with the size you have as smaller tires if even avaible will not work on your wide rims. A 15.5 is as small as a 14 inch plow will work with. Been plowing all my life and almost double your age at 81 but I had to give up farming 15-20 years ago. I don't rember exact setup on levers but I do know the draft control never did work correctly on my 5000, did on the 4000 tractors. Same setup.

 

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And i am in a position to purchase new tires for said 5000. Any suggestion on size? Sounds like they are $1000 each from LeSchwab. Should i stick with 18.4-34 if i decide to use a 16" plow bottom or get narrower tires if available? There is so much i don't know as far as these decisions! I do appreciate all the experience on this thread. I run a Goat Dairy and am getting in to plowing "late" in life. I'm 44 and there is not that many experienced farmers around to bounce things off of here on Lopez Island, WA.

Your 5000 has 18.4-34’s on it now? That size is normally found on the 7000 model and a slightly smaller tire was used on the 5000
5000’s in my area usually had 15.5-38, 16.9-34 or 18.4-30 rear tires
18.4-34’s are a couple inches taller than the others so it’s not a big issue