ford 5000

[steve1243]

Hey guys just looking for some advice on a tractor before i purchase.Looking at a 1971 5000 diesel. It has 6800 hours tractor, 580 hours on engine rebuild, injector pump, and clutch. It the selecto-speed trans. I would be using mostly for running a 7ft haybine and sqaure baling. The other question i would have is would it run a 4x5 round baler. Anything i should watch for or any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[jwjsr]

Nobody's up but me, and I know next to nothing.
I have a 71 4000 3cyl diesel w/PSteering that is bulletproof, bought it 10+ years ago, never been inside, neglected etc. and as hard as i've tried I can't hurt it, I think i could get $5,000 for it easily.

 

[Hogleg]

Don't know what kind of baler you are talking about. My 65hp deere runs my Vermeer 605H just fine. The later year 5000 with the bigger engine has about the same hp so will probably work just fine. I am looking for a 5000 also for a second tractor but seem to want more than I am willing to spend so far.

John

 

[souNdguy]

what 'clutch' did they do on a 5000 sos?

TL? Pto?

 

[Sean in PA]

(quoted from post at 09:52:24 06/24/14) what 'clutch' did they do on a 5000 sos?

TL? Pto?

Could be either one of those, or maybe ddc?

 

[souNdguy]

Yup.. I'd be asking lots of questions on that one.. especially with that vauge description.

 

[steve1243]

I don't know much about them. What questions should i be asking about it. Is there any issues that are known to go wrong with these tractors. Example known for throwing rods, but fixed the problem after 1970 or something like that.

 

[Sean in PA]

The 5000 diesel engines were pretty rock solid, although prone to cavitation pinholes in the cylinder walls if coolant conditioner was not used. They used the same engine in larger models with a turbo on them to get more horses, so the engine is built to handle more than it can put out normally aspirated.

The S-O-S transmission in the 5000 was also pretty rock solid as long as it was properly maintained and was kept in adjustment over the years.

Our curiosity is over your statement "580 hours on engine rebuild, injector pump, and [b:b30d59878a]clutch[/b:b30d59878a]". The Select-O-Speed transmission did not have a traditional clutch like a manual transmission had. The pedal that looks and acts like a clutch pedal is called the "inching" pedal and all it does is control a hydraulic control valve that controls the engaging/disengaging of the various gears in the transmission. There was a torque limiting clutch in the place where a normal clutch is on a manual trans, but they are designed to always be engaged and only slip if there is an extreme load on the engine from some sort of problem in the input section of the transmission, and because of that they are usually never replaced. Then there's the direct drive clutch, which is a multi-disk clutch pack inside the input section of the trans, but most folks wouldn't just say they had a clutch done when they had that worked on or replaced. The only other clutch on that tractor should be the PTO clutch, and again, most folks wouldn't refer to that in the same sentence as the engine and injector pump rebuild.

If everything is running properly and the transmission works in all gears, then it should be fine. Just get yourself a service manual and check the pressures and adjust the bands on the transmission once (if) you buy it.

 

[Brendon Warren]

I've got one. Pretty bullet proof tractor. I don't
know much about the SOS mine has the 8 speed. It
runs this baler fine.

 

[Brendon Warren]

Didn't load the pic.

 

[steve1243]

Not sure just repeating what i was told... Maybe pto if ford has them, I know the seal was replaced. Seems to run and drive fine as far as i can tell. Its in my price range and compared to my farmall sm its a whole new world. Think I'm going to go for it.

 

[Larry NCKS]

(quoted from post at 14:41:57 06/24/14) The 5000 diesel engines were pretty rock solid, although prone to cavitation pinholes in the cylinder walls if coolant conditioner was not used. They used the same engine in larger models with a turbo on them to get more horses, so the engine is built to handle more than it can put out normally aspirated.

The S-O-S transmission in the 5000 was also pretty rock solid as long as it was properly maintained and was kept in adjustment over the years.

Our curiosity is over your statement "580 hours on engine rebuild, injector pump, and [b:4f1436e45e]clutch[/b:4f1436e45e]". The Select-O-Speed transmission did not have a traditional clutch like a manual transmission had. The pedal that looks and acts like a clutch pedal is called the "inching" pedal and all it does is control a hydraulic control valve that controls the engaging/disengaging of the various gears in the transmission. There was a torque limiting clutch in the place where a normal clutch is on a manual trans, but they are designed to always be engaged and only slip if there is an extreme load on the engine from some sort of problem in the input section of the transmission, and because of that they are usually never replaced. Then there's the direct drive clutch, which is a multi-disk clutch pack inside the input section of the trans, but most folks wouldn't just say they had a clutch done when they had that worked on or replaced. The only other clutch on that tractor should be the PTO clutch, and again, most folks wouldn't refer to that in the same sentence as the engine and injector pump rebuild.

You're only forgetting half the clutches in an SOS. Along with the TLC, DDC and PTO clutches; you have Clutch 1, Clutch 2 and Clutch 3!

 

[Sean in PA]

Larry, you're right, I totally forgot those. :roll:

But then again, if someone tore into it enough to work on those they probably would have said "rebuilt trans" rather than "rebuilt engine, injector pump and clutch".

 

[Bern]

FYI: No PTO clutch in a 5000 SOS trans Larry.