ford 841 hydaulics troubleshooting.

[tdow]

On a recent purchase of a 841 ford tractor i am having hydraulic problems. I have posted about it before. I havent had to time to get into it very deeply, my weekends have been very busy for the last few weeks. This morning I had a few minutes before we leave for oklahoma city and I drained about a quart of brown gravy transmission fluid out of the fill line plug on the side of the transmission. So, when I pull the dipstick for the hydraulic fluid it looks like clear and clean oil, when I back the plug out of the hydaulic pump to prime the pump the oil comes out rather dark not as dark as the trans oil. I am afraid that I have a hole in the suction tube inside the transmission case. How can I trouble shoot this? can I drain most of the fluid of the transmission and see if I get alot of air ect ? I took the fill cap off the transmssion case and i can see alot of oil moving around with the tractor running while it is in neutral. I dont know if this means the hydraulic pump is pumping through a hole in the hydo tubes or if there is a counter shaft or something spining down in the transmission. I have ordered some part and will start working on it next weekend including draing all the fluids. Any insight and advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[john in la]

The transmission countershaft in the bottom of the trans spins when the clutch is out.
This is what drives the PTO.

If the hydraulic tubes that run through the trans had a hole you would either be
Pumping trans fluid into the hydraulic section (suction line bad)
Or pumping your hydraulic fluid into the trans ( pressure line bad)