Ford 8n manure spreader problems

[Baswinfo]

I m using a ford 8n and not completely familiar with it. When I use our manure spreader everything is fine at first. Then as the manure moves to the back of the spreader the tongue of the trailer rises and hits the PTO shaft. I m only using a 2 point hitch as the manure spreader doesn t have a place for the top mount. Surely there is a way to make the 2 point hitch from rising. Maybe the position control is what I need to play with I never have. Any thoughts out there would help. Also the manure spreader banger bar spins at first and when manure hits the banger bar it stops. The floor chains still move manure out but is not throwing it. After it s almost done banger bar starts working again.

 

[Lynn Patrick]

First of all, welcome! Lots of great info here & great guys to offer it, so don't hesitate to ask. An 8N does not have down pressure, so the 3 point lift arms (not 2 point arms) will lift when the weight in your spreader all gets to the back & lifts the front. Does your 8N have an underbelly mount drawbar? If not you should look into getting one. It's the safest way to do what you are doing. Look down a few threads to "factory draw bar pictures needed" for some pics.

 

[NY 986]

There is bracing available to go from the top link bracket down to each lift arm socket. This will keep the hitch from rising. As the other poster said there are full
drawbar kits available as well. No reason not to get this handled in pretty short order.

 

[lastcowboy32]

(quoted from post at 12:31:25 10/29/19) I m using a ford 8n and not completely familiar with it. When I use our manure spreader everything is fine at first. Then as the manure moves to the back of the spreader the tongue of the trailer rises and hits the PTO shaft. I m only using a 2 point hitch as the manure spreader doesn t have a place for the top mount. Surely there is a way to make the 2 point hitch from rising. Maybe the position control is what I need to play with I never have. Any thoughts out there would help. Also the manure spreader banger bar spins at first and when manure hits the banger bar it stops. The floor chains still move manure out but is not throwing it. After it s almost done banger bar starts working again.

If you get a set of braces to hold the three point hitch arms down, make sure that you put something on the three point hitch lift lever to make sure it always stays in its lowest position.

If something doesn't hold the lever down, your thigh can accidentally hit the lever to the up position, and one of two things will happen...

Either

1. Your tractor's hydraulic pump will strain constantly trying to lift the three point hitch arms.

OR...

2. Your three point hitch arms will lift and bend the braces that you just put on.

How do I know this???

Been there, done that. We have braces for our Ford 2N and we use a drawbar that goes on the three point hitch arms to haul wagons, manure spreaders and such. I made one set of braces for the three point hitch, and they worked great, until I accidentally hit the lift lever and bent them.

Now, when I use the new braces that I made, I use zip ties or a strong ball-bungee to hold the lever in the down position.

If you are going to do this a lot, maybe get the underbelly drawbar kit. Then it's a moot point.

As far as your manure spreader goes. A model number or something would help.

There is also a specific discussion group called "Implement Alley" that is dedicated to questions about implements.

Welcome to the forums, hope you get many good years out of your 8N and spreader.

 

[Baswinfo]

(quoted from post at 13:00:34 10/29/19) First of all, welcome! Lots of great info here & great guys to offer it, so don't hesitate to ask. An 8N does not have down pressure, so the 3 point lift arms (not 2 point arms) will lift when the weight in your spreader all gets to the back & lifts the front. Does your 8N have an underbelly mount drawbar? If not you should look into getting one. It's the safest way to do what you are doing. Look down a few threads to "factory draw bar pictures needed" for some pics.

It does however I ve never used it and will definetly look into this!! Thanks and I m glad I joined I m wanting to also replace the steering bushings as the steering is sloppy

 

[Baswinfo]

So if I understand this properly there are 2 ways to keep the hitch from rising 1 is the under the PTO bracket that goes to the spreader bar and the other is leveling arms from the spreader bar up to the tractor?

 

[Baswinfo]

So if I understand this properly there are 2 ways to keep the hitch from rising 1 is the under the PTO bracket that goes to the spreader bar and the other is leveling arms from the spreader bar up to the tractor?

 

[lastcowboy32]

(quoted from post at 15:25:04 10/29/19)
So if I understand this properly there are 2 ways to keep the hitch from rising 1 is the under the PTO bracket that goes to the spreader bar and the other is leveling arms from the spreader bar up to the tractor?

If you use the "under the PTO bracket" method (which others have called the "belly mount drawbar", I would suggest that you ditch the "spreader bar" and let your three point hitch arms run freely.

In summary:

In my humble opinion, either use method A:

"Spreader bar" between the three point hitch balls at the ends of the three point hitch... and then brackets or "drawbar stays" to hold the three point hitch in the correct height... along with tie wraps or something to make sure that your three point hitch lever stays inactivated (in its lowest setting)


OR... method B:

An under belly drawbar mount that sticks straight out under the PTO. If you have this, I would suggest having no connections at all between this drawbar and the three point hitch arms.

 

[lastcowboy32]

To be more specific. To do method B "right" (again, in my opinion) make sure that your belly mount drawbar already has two points of connection to the tractor. One right under the PTO, and another under the belly of the tractor.

With those two connection points, there is no need for a "spreader bar" between the three point hitch arms. Which means that there is no chance for your three point hitch arms to accidentally activate and try to bend anything.

Other advantages to this method are that the implement will be attached a little closer to the back end of the tractor; which helps to prevent the front end of the tractor coming up. And, you won't need any fancy PTO extenders and such. Most implements' PTO connections are designed with the length of the belly mount drawbar style in mind.

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 18:25:48 10/29/19)
So if I understand this properly there are 2 ways to keep the hitch from rising 1 is the under the PTO bracket that goes to the spreader bar and the other is leveling arms from the spreader bar up to the tractor?

Dump the OEM under axle clevis and install one of these:

SDA6 Drawbar Kit

TOH

 

[lastcowboy32]

I strongly second what TheOldHokie is saying.

You will thank yourself in the end.

 

[Ed S.]

I'll third that. Exactly what I use with my manure spreader.

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[lastcowboy32]

I'm envious of that trash fork setup on your loader.

I've collected some scrap to make one for our loader.

 

[lonestarjeff]

If you're inclined to fabricate things here's another option based on a hitch design more popular over in the UK(Ferguson). It's made from scrap angle iron, flat stock, & square tubing....

The Ferguson design is strictly a pintle hook, but I use the ball version too. Not sure what your spreader hitch is.