Ford 9N or 2N

[Galen C]

Okay, need a little help. I have a serial number off the block it tells me 9N74147 with a star. The axle has a 12/45 date. Also has a 2N4015A. 3 speed trans, the choke on the right side of the dash. Air cleaner comes up through the hood where the battery is. He woman who owns this tractor says it's a 1946. Is this a 9N or 2N? And is this a good serial number the original tractor and year please....

Galen

 

[HCooke]

Sounds like a 2N with an older 9N engine. 9N serial numbers go up to 9N 109500. All 2N serial numbers start with *9N. 9N and 2N engines are
virtually the same. All 9/2/8N engines will fit onto any 9/2/8N chassis

 

[Jim L WA]

Just to add to what HCook said, the S.N. would make the engine a 1941. Could that number on the axle be 2N4013A? I don't show a 4015 anything from my parts manual.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

It's likely that you engine was switched out. less likely that the rear was switched out but anything is possible with these old tractor. Does your tractor have I beam style or
tube style radius rods? Is your dash a one piece aluminum, one piece cast iron or 2 piece, stamped steel/cast iron?

 

[jon corbett]

hmmmm.i thought only 9n's had the 3 speed transmission?

 

[HCooke]

2Ns have three speed transmissions.

 

[JohnnyHville]

He said the serial number had a *. Maybe the SN# is has been adulterated some way (paint, rubbing, rust, etc.) and is being misread.

 

[Farmer Dan]

Probably just reading the serial number wrong. The star means cast iron sleeves. 9N and 2N had three speed tranny. Four speed came out in 1948 with the 8N. 9N, 2N an 8N used the same engine until the side mount distributor came out. Believe that was 1950.

 

[Jim L WA]

Yep, 2N's have a 3 speed. The 9N and 2N are basically the same. Interesting story on how the 9N was changed to the 2N.

 

[Galen C]

I'll check again on serial number.

 

[Galen C]

Tube.

 

[Galen C]

Okay double check. Sel engine reads as follows *9N74147*

Rear axle 2N4015 A2
Date 12 11 45

 

[Galen C]

Yes steel sleeves. Sel *9N74147*

 

[Galen C]

Yeah thinking older engine is older 41 in a 1945 tractor ..... maybe a 2N

 

[HFJ]

click this link for john smith's excellent ford tractor ID guide. u should be able to nail it down after looking at it

 

[Galen C]

(quoted from post at 12:38:55 11/01/19)
click this link for john smith's excellent ford tractor ID guide. u should be able to nail it down after looking at it

Thank you

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

The 2N4015A number is simply the axle casting number. The 2N designates it as made after October, 1942, til December, 1947, unless it was been changed out by someone. In engine block serial numbers, Ford changed the 9,6, and 1 numerals to letter symbols -see SERVICE BULLETIN and were ONLY used on s/n's. The 9N and 2N are basically the same tractor -they are ALL 3-speeds, DRAFT CONTROL ONLY, with front mount distributor, NO FORD SCRIPT on hood, and the air cleaner had NO vent on hood dash end to name a few. Serial numbers mean nothing really, unless you have an early 9N or early 8N you are restoring. FORD serial number stamps used from 1931 to 1950, not just tractors, all vehicles, used the STAR (*) symbol before and after the s/n to designate that STEEL CYINDER LINERS were used. In April, 1950, FORD revised to cast iron sleeves, changed the star to a diamond (<>)symbol and that is what is used/sold today -they don't make steel ones anymore, and were not good to begin with. That is probably why they had to mark the blocks as they were anticipating making a change at some point. Just because your s/n has the star symbol don't assume it still has steel liners. Chances are the engine has been rebuilt at least once and very possibly could have cast iron sleeves now. You wouldn't know until you stripped down the block. If so, cylinder bores could also have been bored out larger so that is why I always say never to buy an engine kit until you have all the parts out to see what you need. Again I say, s/n's are a moot point. The important things to know are: 3-spd; DRAFT control system; front mount distributor, steering box changes; and if it has been switched out from the OEM 6V/POS GRN system to a 12V/NEG GRN system. Your essential parts books are a valuable tool.

FORD ENGINE BLOCK SERIAL NUMBER HAND STAMPS:

FORD 9N/2N ESSENTIAL OWNER/OPERATOR/PARTS/SERVICE MANUALS:

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