FORD PAINT CODE

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I'm trying to find a close paint match for the original Ford Tractor M1J-1639-SE (BLUE) that was used on the early Thousand Series Models. I bought some TISCO Empire Blue, but see they make two shades, a TP360 and a TP365 and I don't remember which one I had and the can is long gone. Anyway, whatever, it was way too light -more like the later New Holland blue or the Detroit Lions Honolulu Blue. I think the original Ford paint code is M1J-1639-SE, Blue. I bought a can of the CNH/IRON GARD NEW HOLLAND BLUE and it the same shade as the TISCO stuff. I found a Dupli-Color shade, but the store I was at yesterday says that is an old defunct number. Does anyone have a good suggestion for a close match?

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Ultradog MN]

I know there are different opinions on this but I would lay pretty good odds that there was only ONE ☝Ford blue. Used from 62 till 99 or there abouts when New Holland bought out the brand.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Yeah, Jerry, Bern on the FORD forum said CNH has a '1963-1999' FORD BLUE p/n 9613386DS. I'm calling my CNH dealer now to see if they have some. Not driving 15 miles to get skunked. My 1969 ACCESSORIES & SPECIAL PARTS CATALOG SHOWS original paint code as "M1J-1639-SE" in case you want to save it. I agree only one shade til NH changed it. My data shows FORD purchased Sperry-New Holland around 1987.

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Dean]

Don't think so, UD.

The blue used on the prior 000 series tractors is unique to 63-64. It is darker than the two shades of Ford/CNH blue used subsequently.

Adding to the confusion, CNH does not supply the 64-64 blue paint but supplies a 63-9? paint which is not correct for the prior 000 series tractors.

If anyone definitively sorts this out, please post. My retirement project (if I decide to tackle it) is a 64, 4000 SOS.

Dean

 

[Hobo,NC]

Look for a local martin senour dealer near by the local one here was a napa parts store. He had a color chart with the ford codes if I can remember I will stop by tomorrow and see what he show's. I believe it was darker than the 65 up ford blue what number do you think it is...

 

[Den N Ms]

Tim this is a PPG paint code list that I have.

Ford Tractor Blue (1962)------------------------------12720

Ford Tractor Blue (1963-1965) - M20J1639A-------------12809


More Ford Tractor Paint codes

Ford Beige--------------------------------------------33186
Ford Gray---------------------------------------------30570
Ford Gray---------------------------------------------32663
Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)-------------------------------32675
Ford Yellow-------------------------------------------82536
Ford Light Yellow-------------------------------------82549
Ford Red----------------------------------------------2833
Ford Red (1947)---------------------------------------70075
Ford Light Red----------------------------------------72598
Ford Equipment Dark Blue------------------------------12908
Ford New Tractor Red----------------------------------71969
Ford New Tractor Silver-------------------------------33442
Ford Tractor Blue (1962)------------------------------12720
Ford Tractor Blue (1963-1965) - M20J1639A-------------12809
Ford Tractor Buff-------------------------------------81339
Ford Tractor Gray-------------------------------------30448
Ford Tractor Gray (1965) - M20J1750-A-----------------32571
Ford Tractor Gray (1965)------------------------------32571
Ford Tractor Green------------------------------------42940
Ford Tractor Yellow (20J3132A)------------------------82179
Ford Tractor Yellow (New) (M2J5394-A)-----------------82291
Ford Tractor Orange Red-------------------------------71346
Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)------------------------3155
Ford Tractor Vermillion-------------------------------70205
Ford Tractor White------------------------------------8712
Ford Tractor & Implement Buff #1640 (1967)------------22914
Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------4068
Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------4119

 

[Den N Ms]

Dupont Paint Codes for (BLUE)Ford tractors

**1998 TRACTOR BLUE 75268 +
(MAR-4336)
***STANDARD BLUE FROM NEW HOLLAND BS281
ALSO SEE LS116
ALSO SEE H8823 - NASON
(GMC 1971 WA 5798) CVR-NEWBLUE
FORD CONT:
NEW 1900?S BLUE G8164 UAD
# EQUIPMENT BLUE (DK) 29509 +
(DK BLUE RED CAST CLOSE TO NAVY
MX700790
MAR CROSS 10172---DIT CROSS 12908)
IMPLEMENT BLUE BS300
PER A CUSTOMER
1972 BLUE 55002 AD
1974 (MED BLUE BRT - MX700825
1963-69 OR 7251 AD
(MAR CROSS 1066)
EMPIRE BLUE 27863 D
(M-1J-404)
DIESEL / BLUE 27985 D)
EMPIRE #2 (M-1J-1467) (MED BLUE WASHED
OUT
LOOK MAR CROSS 3734)
# TRACTOR BLUE DARK 29311 AD
(M-2J-1639)(WASHED OUT BLUE M25J1639 MAR
CROSS 8486)1966
1963- 1965-BLUE 7251 AD
(MAR CROSS 1066 - ALSO SEE 55002
BLUE 58582 D
BLUE (LIGHT) 73168 D
(1962 DIT CROSS 12720)
1965 BUFF 27986 D
(1965)(M-1J-1510) (DIT CROSS 81339 )

 

[Dean]

My money is on the 12809.

Dean

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Thanks Den. What about the off white? I have a M1J-1640-SE3 - Industrial Buff on my 1969 list but don't know what that is. I also show the M1J-1639-SE for the Ford Blue. Called my CNH dealer today to see if the 9613386DS Ford Bleu, 63-99 and they said yes, they have 12 quarts and 16 rattle cans so going to get a can tomorrow and will reply back with results.


Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Den N Ms]

Tim,here is what I had for white.
WHITE 94126
(MX709467-MAR.SY CROSS-11627 FRD WT
0071 - DKR THAN N7908
WHITE N7908 +
WHITE (OR) 59543 D
(MX709233 MAR SEY CROSS 9836 ALPINE
WHITE 805- 1980 -NISSAN BEIGE
WHITE LIGHTER THAN 9412)
***1998 WHITE LS116
(SPECTRAMASTER
TRACTOR WHITE 4775 +
(M30J1619A MAR CROSS 1528
- WIMBLEDON WHITE FORD CODE M 1967)

 

[Dean]

Trust me, your CNH dealer does not know what was originally used on 63-64, 4000s. BTDT. Nor does anyone else at CNH.

Dean

 

[Ultradog MN]

The Buff color was used on the Utilities - 2110, 4110, 3400, and the 4410 Woods Tractor.
The chassis was Empire Blue and the tin, fenders and rims a very light yellow.
It was a aesthetically pleasing combo but not quite as pleasing as the red/buff combo used on the very early 2000 LCGs.
That same red/buff paint scheme is partly why I think the Cockshutts were the most handsome tractors ever.

 

[Benj R]

If all else fails,you might want to try the Fordson collectors in the UK. I think the Super Dextas and Majors used the same paint.

 

[Dollar Bill]

The blue paint used on 62-64 ag tractors is the same color as automobile paint code (WT8002) used on the 1968 Mustang.

The grey is the same grey used on the 8N and the most correct shade that I've found is Tisco: TP240 as shown below.

 

[Dean]

Both look right to me, Bill.

Dean

 

[Hobo,NC]

MS color chart numbers on back of card.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

It looks like I want the last one, Dark Blue for Equipment. I doubt if still available.

Tim

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Yeah I agree about the TISCO 249 MED Grey, but all the TISCO FORD labeled paints are too orangy. The closest match to original Ford Vermillion is the TISCO IH RED TP110. Your 'Stang looks great, but the blue too light for what I want.

TPD

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

OK -it was more of a yellowish tinge, right? You don't see any of those around anymore.

TPD

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I believe my early 1939 9N has the correct paint shades, both the blue and the white for the early 1960 Paint Codes used on the Thousand Series Models. My late uncles decided to paint their ?39 9N the new Ford shades in the early 60?s because, as my Uncle Bernie said, ??we were just bored of the plain dull 9N Grey??. I now own this tractor, got it in 1997 when my Uncle Pat died and am restoring it now as a tribute to both uncles and my grandfather who died the year before I was born so I never knew him. Yes, I will repaint it back to the original Ford M2888 Dark Grey. Yesterday I hit my local CNH dealer and bought a rattle can of the FORD early (63-00) Blue Paint, #961336DS. Here are the early and the later NH Blue Cans. Note cap shades. I have test parts in the paint booth now. I will post later. I think the shade I am after is the Equipment Blue that HOBO shows below.

CNH ?IRONGARD? FORD BLUE PAINTS ? EARLY ON LEFT, NH BLUE ON RIGHT:

MY EARLY 1939 9N PAINTED BLUE & WHITE:

A RECENT POST OF A THOUSAND SERIES TRACTOR:

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)

 

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 17:30:04 09/02/18) It looks like I want the last one, Dark Blue for Equipment. I doubt if still available.

Tim

The store I went to use to be a NAPA store he is a tractor guy/collector. He use to sale NAPA/martin senour paint and still does but his inventory is low. He ask me if I wanted him to mix a sample he would if he had what he needed if not he would order it.

I googled martin senour paint code cross reference

Some were (you could play all day clicking on all the numbers that come up on there site) I read about the ford paint codes. They said they did not know the order ford used I think I read M1 came before M2 for what its worth.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorco...amp;syear=&smanuf=Ford&smodel=Tractor

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?martin=116&con=7

 

[Hobo,NC]

I remember now I kept searching there data base with the numbers kept clicking on the the numbers this came up.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetail.cgi?wtcode=MX700790

 

[Hobo,NC]

Play some more

http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

This is the shade I'm after. Thanks, HOBO.

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)