Hi Marc, you have a bit of a rare tractor there, until 1990 I had never seen one in England and I worked for many years servicing and selling Ford and Fordson tractors for a large dealership. Only 4000 were built and were mainly exported to cold countries where there were concerns about the diesel version not starting. Many went to Scandinavia, others to Australia, Canada and New Zealand with some getting into the US but not in large numbers.I have a fordson dexta gas..4 cylinder..it it a Ferguson motor or what??. I believe it's a 61??
I learn something every day on here Skip. An even more rare beast is the Dexta 44, a couple have appeared for sale and I would love to own one but too old now. They are a Dexta with a Fordson Major engine, they have a modified clutch housing so the engine bolts straight in and the Dexta steering parts, bonnet and front cowl all remain as the Dexta. Only about 50 of those were built.Interesting!!! I didn't realize such a critter exists. It's amazing what a person can learn, if they pay attention.
How could you possibly get enough weight to handle that much horsepower. The Dexta had a real good power to weight ratio. My buddy bought a 4110 last fall. that's a 4000 engine fitted to a 2000 front end, transmission and differential. I'm glad he's just going to use it to rake hay, because I know who's going to get to repair it.I learn something every day on here Skip. An even more rare beast is the Dexta 44, a couple have appeared for sale and I would love to own one but too old now. They are a Dexta with a Fordson Major engine, they have a modified clutch housing so the engine bolts straight in and the Dexta steering parts, bonnet and front cowl all remain as the Dexta. Only about 50 of those were built.
The Dexta was rated at 38 hp, my petrol is 39 hp and the Super Dexta got up to 45 hp so the Major engine at 44 hp would be OK with the transmission and rear axle. The main gearbox problems came from wear on the gear sticks so they could jump out of the selectors. Saying that, my 60 year old petrol changes gear perfectly still, like all things, it depends how hard you are with it, take a little time and it is fine.How could you possibly get enough weight to handle that much horsepower. The Dexta had a real good power to weight ratio. My buddy bought a 4110 last fall. that's a 4000 engine fitted to a 2000 front end, transmission and differential. I'm glad he's just going to use it to rake hay, because I know who's going to get to repair it.
Interesting; thanks Brian. We had an occasional Dexta (all three cyl diesels) come through the shop, but only if a close friend of the boss ask for one. He specialized in importing the Majors, then the 5000s for one purpose. We put the Howard rotovator gear boxes in them to pull green pea combines.The Dexta was rated at 38 hp, my petrol is 39 hp and the Super Dexta got up to 45 hp so the Major engine at 44 hp would be OK with the transmission and rear axle. The main gearbox problems came from wear on the gear sticks so they could jump out of the selectors. Saying that, my 60 year old petrol changes gear perfectly still, like all things, it depends how hard you are with it, take a little time and it is fine.
The petrol engine is slightly longer and a better weight position compared to the diesel IMHO. I use a two furrow Ransomes Robin plough or a Ford Ransomes PM 2, 2 furrow plough and this gives perfect weight balance. I can plough in surprisingly poor conditions with those, where my Major and Nuffield will get stuck.
The 4100 is a good tractor, the engine used is the pre-force one so is not quite as powerful. It would be great for mowing, ploughing and transport work but a bit light in the front axle for heavy loader work. I have a friend who has had one since the 1970's on a small farm and gets on well with it.
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. First, your tractor is a 1962 according to your serial number. The engine number, which is stamped into the block near the coil will help too. It will start FPL and finish with an E.
As far as parts are concerned, you are unlikely to get any help from Ford or Fordson suppliers, very few of them even realise a petrol Dexta exists. Your best bet for bits is your local M-F dealer, ignition and carburettor parts are the same as a Ferguson TE 20 or a Massey-Ferguson petrol 35, the engines are basically the same, a Standard Motor Company one. Some engine parts, like valves are the same as Triumph cars of the era. Pistons, liners and bearings are M-F, starter motor and starter ring gear are a problem to find as there does not seem to be anything like them available. The flywheel is also different, it is massive, far bigger than the diesel versions. Everything else is standard Fordson Dexta including clutch and all gearbox, front and rear axle and hydraulics. Tie rods for the front axle are longer and so is the bonnet.
Hope this helps.
If you post the complete serial number and the engine number plus any casting codes I can add it to my database of petrol's from all over the world. There were only around 4000 engines supplied to Ford between 1960 and 1964 so she is a rare beast.
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. First, your tractor is a 1962 according to your serial number. The engine number, which is stamped into the block near the coil will help too. It will start FPL and finish with an E.
As far as parts are concerned, you are unlikely to get any help from Ford or Fordson suppliers, very few of them even realise a petrol Dexta exists. Your best bet for bits is your local M-F dealer, ignition and carburettor parts are the same as a Ferguson TE 20 or a Massey-Ferguson petrol 35, the engines are basically the same, a Standard Motor Company one. Some engine parts, like valves are the same as Triumph cars of the era. Pistons, liners and bearings are M-F, starter motor and starter ring gear are a problem to find as there does not seem to be anything like them available. The flywheel is also different, it is massive, far bigger than the diesel versions. Everything else is standard Fordson Dexta including clutch and all gearbox, front and rear axle and hydraulics. Tie rods for the front axle are longer and so is the bonnet.
Hope this helps.
If you post the complete serial number and the engine number plus any casting codes I can add it to my database of petrol's from all over the world. There were only around 4000 engines supplied to Ford between 1960 and 1964 so she is a rare beast.
Go easy with that cannon!!! Check the ignition switch first. Do not buy a new switch or any other parts unless needed, they do not seem to be the same quality as original. The ignition switch can be taken apart and cleaned, I had 9 after-market ones on my tractor, all from reputable suppliers and some only lasted a few hours. I eventually got an original from a good friend in Australia and that has worked perfectly for the last four years even though it was 60 years old.Thanks !!
That is MUCH appreciated. Just ordered new ignition part ( MF Te20) . I ordered before the post because I found is on this site . Probably by you.
I’d love to help with the data base but my dremel , breakcleaner and I have been all over those said locations (also found that info in this forum . You guys a more great) and for the life of me can NOT freaking find it . This thing has run like a dream , I got 5 attachments. One day I was adding a little oil because she leaks and it died and has no spark . With my general knowledge of combustion engines one does not relate to the other . Pretty wierd coincidence I guess..
So I’m firing the parts cannon at her ..
appreciate you
~Kenny
Okay thanks . I have the option to return stuff .. you mean the actual key ignition?.Go easy with that cannon!!! Check the ignition switch first. Do not buy a new switch or any other parts unless needed, they do not seem to be the same quality as original. The ignition switch can be taken apart and cleaned, I had 9 after-market ones on my tractor, all from reputable suppliers and some only lasted a few hours. I eventually got an original from a good friend in Australia and that has worked perfectly for the last four years even though it was 60 years old.
Yes, the ignition switch but if the coil is getting hot check the points and the wire down to the distributer and where it goes in, for a short before replacing the coil.Seems my big coil thing ends up cooking hot . I’m only replacing the distributor cap and wires because there brittleness . Think that fine?
Thanks so much again
You been a big help . Do you know the correct gap for the points ? Thanks again .Yes, the ignition switch but if the coil is getting hot check the points and the wire down to the distributer and where it goes in, for a short before replacing the coil.
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