Front End Loader for 1970 MF135

[DeerNightmare]

Will a MF 135 be able to handle a loader with the PTO hydraulic pump or, will I need to put an auxiliary pump on the engine?

How much is typical for a used, working, loader for the MF 135?

 

[ptfarmer]

You can run it off of a pto driven hydraulic pump. A pump that's around 14 gpm would work good. How much for a used front end loader (FEL) depends on where you live, where I live it's hard to find a good, used FEL for under $2000

 

[DeerNightmare]

Thx for the info. We live in N.C. (Raleigh), however, land for retirement and use will be near Mt.Airy, NC.

Pump flow is rated at ~ 17 lpm. Should be OK if I can find one somewhere in N.C. or southern Va.

 

[robilmichael]

Hi, if you can find a good pump driven off the front crankshaft that would be the best. That way you can use the PTO as well. I run mine off of the internal pump and it works, but it is much slower than a typical FEL off of a separate pump.

 

[ptfarmer]

(quoted from post at 15:49:47 05/31/17) Hi, if you can find a good pump driven off the front crankshaft that would be the best. That way you can use the PTO as well. I run mine off of the internal pump and it works, but it is much slower than a typical FEL off of a separate pump.

Very nice 135, what is the brand of the FEL do you have on it?

 

[rockepg]

17 LPM is roughly the same as 4.5 GPM and will be quite slow. Agree with the front mounted pump at 17 GPM and will be very nice.
Nice looking machine indeed! That loader looks a lot like my ARPS unit but with a much better bucket.

 

[robilmichael]

Thanks, that is a like-new Schwartz 1200 loader that I bought for $1000 several years ago running off the internal MF135 pump. I have double selector valve on the top of the lift cover and use one port to run the loader. It is essentially the same as a Ford 770B loader. It returns through the plug in the top cover. It is slower than a normal FEL, but is acceptable, has power and is strong enough to lift and hold 800 or 900 lbs. easily. It has a 5' bucket, has no leak down at all, has down pressure, but needed quite a bit of fabricating of pieces and welding to make it fit the tractor. I looked at it like a project. It came off a newer IH compact tractor for which it was too large.

I added PS to the tractor to make it easier to steer. The tires are filled and I have about 300 lbs of weight on each side too. However, for any significant work it still needed the weight added off the back end, which hangs from a chain attached to the back of the tractor so that the 3 pt. hitch has no weight on it. Works well, even in heavy snow.

 

[ptfarmer]

Nice job on the loader install! Have any pictures of your steering setup? I see a drag link under the front support, and no drag link from the right spindle to the right arm on the steering box.

 

[robilmichael]

Attached are some more pics of the unit. It is driven off a pump installed in the usual spot, and with one hydraulic ram attached from the left steering arm to the left spindle, and an arm welded to the bottom of the left spindle is connected with a rod to a similar arm welded to the right spindle. I beefed up the connecting rod as the one with the kit was useless. Lots of welding here, but it was fun. The right connecting rod from the right steering arm is removed, although you can leave it on but it tends to bind up a bit and make the steering about 1/2 as effective. With the right connecting arm removed, you can steer with one finger even with a full bucket. I had to cut and weld up pieces to make it all fit, but now it is very strong and robust. For $1,000, it was a good buy I think, if you can weld a bit.

Thanks.

PS - that MF135 diesel will start on the first spin at zero degrees no problem, and I swear it uses no fuel.

 

[ptfarmer]

PS - that MF135 diesel will start on the first spin at zero degrees no problem, and I swear it uses no fuel.



Every Perkins ad3.152 diesel engine I've ever come across is like that. Starts right up, and a tank of fuel goes along ways.

 

[Dale39]

(quoted from post at 10:26:20 05/31/17) Will a MF 135 be able to handle a loader with the PTO hydraulic pump or, will I need to put an auxiliary pump on the engine?

How much is typical for a used, working, loader for the MF 135?

here is one for sale for an example, the guy is asking $800 CDN for it.

 

[John Deere D]

I have the exact same Loader MALCO / ALLIED:

Was installed on a MF FE 35:

Totally Thrashed / Wore the front Pivot axel pin and bore:

Front Wheel /Hub spindle on Generator side had to be replaced:

Main lift Rams were single acting:

Very well made loader and frame:

I now have the same loader on my 1949 JD "AR"

Bob...

 

[DeerNightmare]

Thx to all with the info shared.

 

[jamstra]

For what it's worth my 1967 135 has a MF 80 (old type) loader fitted - it's the 'recommended' loader for the tractor, and operates just fine
from the internal hydraulic pump, with oil supply taken from a diverter valve on the top rh front corner of the gearbox.

This supplies oil to a bank of 3 spool valves (one single acting for the main rams, and two double acting for tilt and crowd function). Rear
counterbalance supplied by ballasted rear tyres and by stringing 5 front end weights onto a 'grey ferg' type 3 point linkage drawbar. Neat,
tidy and easy to mount/de-mount.

Loader easily lifts and stacks (3 high) round bales of hay (400 lbs) and will lift and move (just!) round bales of silage at around 1000 lbs.
Wouldn't try lifting THEM very high though!!

 

[DeerNightmare]

(quoted from post at 02:42:41 06/19/17) For what it's worth my 1967 135 has a MF 80 (old type) loader fitted - it's the 'recommended' loader for the tractor, and operates just fine
from the internal hydraulic pump, with oil supply taken from a diverter valve on the top rh front corner of the gearbox.
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This supplies oil to a bank of 3 spool valves (one single acting for the main rams, and two double acting for tilt and crowd function). Rear
counterbalance supplied by ballasted rear tyres and by stringing 5 front end weights onto a 'grey ferg' type 3 point linkage drawbar. Neat,
tidy and easy to mount/de-mount.

Loader easily lifts and stacks (3 high) round bales of hay (400 lbs) and will lift and move (just!) round bales of silage at around 1000 lbs.
Wouldn't try lifting THEM very high though!!

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[color=blue:c4dea62c89]Thx for the info. We'll still looking for a used one in Western NC or Southern Va area.[/color:c4dea62c89]