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Lady and friend that manages the local 7-11 told me this morning that her supplier is expecting gasoline to go anywhere from $6 to $10 a gallon by July.


Got the one thousand gallon diesel topped off at the farm a couple of weeks ago. It took 450 gallon and cost a little over $1800 ($100 delivery fee added on) for on road diesel. I top the tank off every Feb or early March each year and rotate between off road one year and on road the next.
 
Wow to that $100 delivery charge. I deliver diesel and gas everyday and we only charge $7.50 for the delivery and our prices beat many of our competitors. We only charge a special delivery fee when the order is below 150 gallons and then its only $35.
 
If you are running dyed fuel in a on road vehicle in off years, and non-dyed fuel in your tractors on farm. Is it not reasonable to buy
some of each and use them separately rather than chance a hefty fine 50% of the time? or am I missing something. I also feel the delivery
charge is gouging unless it requires a massive trip or nasty conditions. Jim
 
(quoted from post at 14:08:12 02/21/22) Wow to that $100 delivery charge. I deliver diesel and gas everyday and we only charge $7.50 for the delivery and our prices beat many of our competitors. We only charge a special delivery fee when the order is below 150 gallons and then its only $35.
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I am glad to pay it. lol
To get to my farm you turn two off of the main two lane state road, go 4 miles on a single lane road then turn off and go 2 1/2 miles up a single lane dirt road with a section about half a mile long that is through a creek bed. I have it topped off just once a year so I don't complain.
 
At that price it will cost me roughly between 2 to 300 dollars a
week to get to work. That will then be more than our
mortagage with both the school and property taxes. And
anyone can tell me thats ok ? I cant possibly see how this
can continue and maintain any type of economy what so ever.
To think nothing can be done is very disheartening ! At 47
years old Im really not looking forward to living the rest rest of
my life this way. Pretty sad.
 
Can you either change the distance to your job, or use a more economical vehicle for commuting to work?
 
That would mean having 2 vehicles with registrations and insurance, repairs and maintenance. I would still need my truck. I work road construction so driving varies from 45 minutes up to an hour and 45 minutes at the worst so far one way typically. Sure wish it didnt have to be like that, but that is my everyday occupation.
 
I agree. That didn't make sense to me either. A purchase of that size, there should of been some grace on the delivery fee. Would of been in my area. I don't even get a delivery fee on my propane, no matter how many gallon. Grant it, I'm on thier route to stop by and top it off at thier convenience, but still, half the time they stop by it's few numbers of gallons, and still no delivery fee.
 

Diesel hit almost $2.00 AUS a litre here in Victoria last week . That equates to near enough $8.00 USD a US gallon .
Current uncertainty about the situation in Ukraine has given oil companies enough reason to start their traditional price gouging practices .

Price before the $h!t hit the fan was AUS $ 1.30 per litre.
 
(quoted from post at 22:38:19 02/21/22) 135 mile round trip commute to work, glad I'm retiring first of April.

Guess I should get the off road diesel tanks topped off.

Fred
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I top mine 1000 gallon tank before spring every year. One year off road, next year on road. Never had a problem with gelling, alge or water in the fuel. Everything on the farm runs on diesel and having a storage tank saves me a lot of hassles and work by not having to haul 55 gallon drums back and forth every time I need fuel. More often than not it has paid off filling the tank in the spring.

I do not worry about mixing the fuel 50/50 of on and off road. Last year I bought 600 gallon of on road and this year 450 gallons of off road. All of the engines seem to run cleaner and smoother by mixing it.
 
Seasonal prices aside, why would you folks not top up your tanks with summer diesel for the higher BTU's?
 
(quoted from post at 13:01:16 02/21/22) Lady and friend that manages the local 7-11 told me this morning that her supplier is expecting gasoline to go anywhere from $6 to $10 a gallon by July.
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You mean the truck driver that delivers the gas.

Was his name Punxsutawney Phil? Did he also forecast six more weeks of winter?

People have been waving their hands prognosticating that fuel is going to go to some obnoxious price for years, and it has never happened. I know, I know, "This time it's different!" Every time "it's different!"
 
Well gee whiz!
Oh my!
Groan!
I told ya a long time ago!
Sure is nice to live a long way from work!
Thinking of electric car maybe?
Ride share?
Just like 1975, take a cross word book with you while to wait in line.
Sure isn't like the great old days!
It's some body's fault!]
 
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I top mine 1000 gallon tank before spring every year. One year off road, next year on road. Never had a problem with gelling, alge or water in the fuel. Everything on the farm runs on diesel and having a storage tank saves me a lot of hassles and work by not having to haul 55 gallon drums back and forth every time I need fuel. More often than not it has paid off filling the tank in the spring.

I do not worry about mixing the fuel 50/50 of on and off road. Last year I bought 600 gallon of on road and this year 450 gallons of off road. All of the engines seem to run cleaner and smoother by mixing it.
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I dont understand the problem process of buying off-road fuel one year and on road fuel the next if its all going into off-road equipment
Its all the same fuel, they simply add red dye to the fuel and dont add the highway use tax to the price per gallon
 
(quoted from post at 09:08:28 02/22/22) Seasonal prices aside, why would you folks not top up your tanks with summer diesel for the higher BTU's?
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You don't want to get stuck with summer 20% biofuel going into the winter.
 
And here I thought diesel was diesel, #1 & #2.

Those old manuals say to use #2 year-round. I didn't realize they doctored up the diesel. Guess I better look into that...
 
It sounds like farm commodity prices. They can talk $6 to $10 corn in the spring or fall anytime they want but that is no guarantee it will be at that price by then.
 
(quoted from post at 09:38:19 02/23/22) Future price of April 22
gas will peak at $2.86

Sept 22 future price will
fall to $2.63

March is at $2.72

Google RBOB gas. It's just gas.
Not blended.
No indication of $10 gas.
RBOB future price of gas.
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I paid $3.91 for the cheapest gas day before yesterday George. And it's headed up with Russia invading Ukraine!
 
SV,
RBOB is the wholesale unblended price gas.
Doesn't include shipping, handling, sales taxes, state and Fed excise taxes, and gas station profits.
That could easily be a dollar more per gallon...
 
Gas futures, corn futures, bean futures are the stock market futures. They may change mostly by supply and demand. Sometimes by fear of current events in national news.

My money is on RBOB prices. Want bet won't see $10 gas?
 
The local grocery store has been holding at $3.04 since the first of the year for 87 E10 or less while road diesel is running $3.65.
Won't go into details as to what it was a year and a month ago.
 
It may go to $10 but the consumer will let it stay in the pumps.......a Capitalistic Market System! Self regulating of sticky fingers would just leave it alone and let it be a market.
 
Good day Texasmark....
And yet, the USA Presidential administration (as I see it,.. quite possibly I'm incorrect) refuses to to allow CANADIAN DIRTY OIL to be piped to the USA, even though the Canadians will never go to war or try to drive the cost of a barrel of crude sky high.

Bob...
 
(quoted from post at 10:49:28 02/23/22) Good day Texasmark....
And yet, the USA Presidential administration (as I see it,.. quite possibly I'm incorrect) refuses to to allow CANADIAN DIRTY OIL to be piped to the USA, even though the Canadians will never go to war or try to drive the cost of a barrel of crude sky high.

Bob...
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That pipe line that was to be laid across the Straits Of Mackinaw and on down through Michigan was to go East and on into Canada. I could be wrong on that.
 
(quoted from post at 11:57:24 02/23/22)
(quoted from post at 10:49:28 02/23/22) Good day Texasmark....
And yet, the USA Presidential administration (as I see it,.. quite possibly I'm incorrect) refuses to to allow CANADIAN DIRTY OIL to be piped to the USA, even though the Canadians will never go to war or try to drive the cost of a barrel of crude sky high.

Bob...
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That pipe line that was to be laid across the Straits Of Mackinaw and on down through Michigan was to go East and on into Canada. I could be wrong on that.
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Dakota Access oil pipeline running from Stanley ND to Patoka IL is the one that the now administration blocked earlier this month.
 
Doesn't that pipeline parallel an existing pipeline that has
been working for years?

The nation's more than 2.6 million miles of pipelines safely
deliver trillions of cubic feet of natural gas and hundreds of
billions of ton/miles of liquid petroleum products each year.

So in the grand scale of things how much good does shutting down
a couple of pipelines really do?
 
Well Texas oil was so plentiful it was exported under the last administration. Last time I checked we were importing oil from Russia.
 
There is a dual pipeline called Line 5 which is a target of nimby's wanting it shutdown because it crosses the straights of mackinac, lying on the bottom since the 1950's.
But the current lawsuits and attempts to shut it down by Michigan's governor have not yet shut it down.

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Prior to the start of 2021 during the few immediate preceeding years gas price was relatively low and stable as were crude oil supplies.
Beginning in 2021 gas has like doubled, inflation is at record highs, crime and murder in big cities has spiked, the border crisis has
exploded, there's a supply chain crisis WELL DRATS grrrrrrrrr.. I hope and pray THESE problems (the ones I mentioned) get solved and SOON,,,
I just don't think they are good for America !!!!!!!!!!!!

Best wishes everyone and for those so inclined please pray THESE problems are solved. I hope such a reasonable wish doesn't go POOF.......

John T
 
(quoted from post at 14:36:08 02/23/22) It may go to $10 but the consumer will let it stay in the pumps.......a Capitalistic Market System! Self regulating of sticky fingers would just leave it alone and let it be a market.
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If the consumer HAS to get to work, HAS to get to the store, Has to get to the Drs., HAS to take their kids to school functions then the consumer will have no choice. And if gas goes up $2-4 @ gal, diesel will go up too and everything else will follow.

If you stop and consider that the big push now is for everyone to go to electric vehicles, (which makes you wonder how many politicians are heavily invested in electric vehicles, batteries, power generation, copper, etc!!!), then high fuel prices are great way to "nudge" people in that direction. The elite, wealthy types will always have access to fuel for their jets and yachts. I'm tellin' ya, look up The Great Reset, it's coming.
 
John, your arithmetic is faulty.

Gas in my area averages around $3.80 for regular 87 octane. HALF of that is $1.90. That is substantially LESS than the average $2.35 during the time period that you refer to.

While I do agree that fuel prices have increased dramatically, they have NOT yet doubled. Give it time!
 
Prior to 2020 gasoline prices hovered just below $3 if the world economy was in stable times, corn was a little higher but not much. During the 2020 shut down gasoline prices fell, but I don't believe those temporary $1 gas prices were ever realistic to use as a new long term bench mark.
 
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