Gleaner m2

[Gregorytractorguy]

I have a gleaner m2. When I combine for about one bin full the hot oil light comes on. Shortly after that the steering wheel will click as I turn it. Combine does not turn when that happens. Also I no longer can raise head. When it’s cold it seems to work correctly but will not raise 6 row head at low rpm even on start up. Thanks in advance for any pointers. It does have correct clean atf and new filter.
Also should it have 180 bushel bin?

 

[Bob Bancroft]

I have a gleaner m2. When I combine for about one bin full the hot oil light comes on. Shortly after that the steering wheel will click as I turn it. Combine does not turn when that happens. Also I no longer can raise head. When it’s cold it seems to work correctly but will not raise 6 row head at low rpm even on start up. Thanks in advance for any pointers. It does have correct clean atf and new filter.
Also should it have 180 bushel bin?

I recall when an F (with manual spool valves) hydraulic system messed up. The cause was one spool stuck just off from center.
A possibility in your situation is the hydraulic system is similarly loaded causing it to heat rapidly. It's difficult to hear that going on with a combine when everything is back behind the bin. You know how with a tractor you can usually tell by the sounds when the hydraulic system is maxed out pushing a relief valve open. I can't be any more specific than to suggest that your valve block needs to be checked over thoroughly. It's been so long I can't remember, but I think it's normal to have to increase engine speed to raise the header. It's that way with my CaseIH 1660.

 

[Gregorytractorguy]

I recall when an F (with manual spool valves) hydraulic system messed up. The cause was one spool stuck just off from center.
A possibility in your situation is the hydraulic system is similarly loaded causing it to heat rapidly. It's difficult to hear that going on with a combine when everything is back behind the bin. You know how with a tractor you can usually tell by the sounds when the hydraulic system is maxed out pushing a relief valve open. I can't be any more specific than to suggest that your valve block needs to be checked over thoroughly. It's been so long I can't remember, but I think it's normal to have to increase engine speed to raise the header. It's that way with my CaseIH 1660.

Yes I know what you mean by the tractor. I will check the valves should be able to find a process in the book. I was looking combine over today and noticed that there is no hydraulic cooler. That seems odd ???

 

[paul]

Isn’t there a cooler to the right of the radiator under that shrouding and the cleaning screen/ fan?

Very common for dust to pack that area up.

I think M2 was all gear drive with the smaller hyd pump, M3 could be hydro drive with the bigger pump? Just want to make sure I’m on the same page….

Paul

 

[big orange]

Hydraulic drive belts tight? If it has flaps that move up with the tank fill auger it's a 180, other wise it's 165. M-2 could be hydro or gear drive. Does the oil foam in the sight gauge when it's hot?

 

[Gregorytractorguy]

Isn’t there a cooler to the right of the radiator under that shrouding and the cleaning screen/ fan?

Very common for dust to pack that area up.

I think M2 was all gear drive with the smaller hyd pump, M3 could be hydro drive with the bigger pump? Just want to make sure I’m on the same page….

Paul

I think that there should be. The holes for hose to go thru are there but no cooler. Not sure if the cooler was only for hydro. Mine is gear drive.

 

[Gregorytractorguy]

Hydraulic drive belts tight? If it has flaps that move up with the tank fill auger it's a 180, other wise it's 165. M-2 could be hydro or gear drive. Does the oil foam in the sight gauge when it's hot?

Belt is in good shape and tight. It has flaps that go up when the fill auger goes up. Only getting 165 in it tho probably just not filling it full. Oil does not foam.

 

[Gregorytractorguy]

does anyone have 23.1-30 tire they are trying to sell. Western ny?

 

[Gregorytractorguy]

I’m thinking pump is weak ? Or oil is super heating. I will get a gauge and check pressure when hot. Also a laser thermometer so I can check temp of oil.

 

[m16ty]

Isn’t there a cooler to the right of the radiator under that shrouding and the cleaning screen/ fan?

Very common for dust to pack that area up.

I think M2 was all gear drive with the smaller hyd pump, M3 could be hydro drive with the bigger pump? Just want to make sure I’m on the same page….

Paul

M2 could also be had in a hydro. My brother has one.

 

[NY 986]

Do you know about Kelly's Garage in Perry, NY? Last I knew they had knowledgeable people in terms of the older Gleaner combines. The rest of the AC legacy dealers are gone.

 

[Bob Bancroft]

does anyone have 23.1-30 tire they are trying to sell. Western ny?

Here in central NY, Lansing to be exact, is a combine salvage yard. They would be more likely than anyone to have a 23.1x30.
K&J Surplus.
Also, as far as bin capacity- the F2 I had was supposed to hold 125 bushels with the factory extension. It never held that much until I added a foot around the top!

 

[paul]

There sure were a lot of upgrades from the original 1960s F M L to the 1980s F3 M3 L3 models.

They often made the biggest changes within the same model, like the F2 coming out in 1977 but the long shoe F2 was such a better machine in 1978.

So many options and special designations.

My 68 F was supposed to have a 100 bu hopper, don’t think I ever got 80 bu in it. The F3 was a 125 bu hopper and I could about get there in heavy corn.

It was quite a line of machines, they were really popular around here even with the Red and Green guys back in the day.

My L3 had some issues, so I’m using an M2 gear drive this fall I just found in September. The machine is pretty good shape, the engine is falling apart. And my knee is noticing the clutch, I was spoiled with hydro in the last few machines.

Paul

 

[Gregorytractorguy]

It is missing hyd cooler for sure and oil was getting HOT 220 degrees ! I cleaned everything off revisor hoses pump. To let heat out better and removed shield so air can move past better. Was basically only shield machine had anyway. Worked much better. Will be getting a cooler installed this offseason. Thanks for all the replies. I do know of Kelly’s. I didn’t know they were familiar with old ac equipment. I called k and j. He is looking for me. Nice guy!

 

[Bob Bancroft]

There sure were a lot of upgrades from the original 1960s F M L to the 1980s F3 M3 L3 models.

They often made the biggest changes within the same model, like the F2 coming out in 1977 but the long shoe F2 was such a better machine in 1978.

So many options and special designations.

My 68 F was supposed to have a 100 bu hopper, don’t think I ever got 80 bu in it. The F3 was a 125 bu hopper and I could about get there in heavy corn.

It was quite a line of machines, they were really popular around here even with the Red and Green guys back in the day.

My L3 had some issues, so I’m using an M2 gear drive this fall I just found in September. The machine is pretty good shape, the engine is falling apart. And my knee is noticing the clutch, I was spoiled with hydro in the last few machines.

Paul

My F2 was a great machine. Having hydro drive was a large factor in moving to a newer machine. After operating, repairing, and owning Gleaners for something like 45 years, the local dealer is long gone. So now it's a red machine.