Hydraulic Question Ford 5600

[lwmille]

Im wanting to have the ability to have a grapple bucket on the front of my loader. The tractor has a 2 spool remote valve and the loader is being operated off of one of those. What is the best way to add hydraulics for the bucket and does anyone have suggestions on parts like a control valve?

 

[lwmille]

The left side is supplying the loader and the right side goes to the rear

 

[Mobuck]

Electric solenoid 'splitter valves'.

 

[Sean in PA]

If the loader valve is a stackable valve, add another spool. If not, get a single spool valve for the grapple with power beyond capabilities.

 

[lwmille]

If the loader valve is a stackable valve, add another spool. If not, get a single spool valve for the grapple with power beyond capabilities.

Sorry im not very familiar with hydraulics, do you happen to have a link to an affordable single spool PB valve? I get a lot of different things when searching for one along with numerous fittings.. Can you also explain how I would the plumb the existing valve and PB valve?

Would something like this be a better option?

Monoblock Directional Control Valve, 3 Spool, Joystick Handle, 11 GPM

Hydraulic Monoblock Directional Control Valve, 3 Spool, Joystick Handle, 11 GPM

summit-hydraulics.com

 

[Mobuck]

Why not just use longer hoses and operate your grapple cylinder(s) to your other remote?

 

[lwmille]

Why not just use longer hoses and operate your grapple cylinder(s) to your other remote?

its a cabbed tractor and the remote handles are really weird along with them being single acting. I have the one for the loader constantly open with a bungee cord and I think I would have to close it to use the other one?

 

[lwmille]

If the loader valve is a stackable valve, add another spool. If not, get a single spool valve for the grapple with power beyond capabilities.

Does both the loader valve and power beyond valve need a return to the tank? If so is it possible to put a T on the tank return?

 

[Mobuck]

Probably

 

[Destroked 450]

The valves should not be single acting unless they are set for that
Yes you would have to center the one to operate the other

 

[Harry in Ky]

Im wanting to have the ability to have a grapple bucket on the front of my loader. The tractor has a 2 spool remote valve and the loader is being operated off of one of those. What is the best way to add hydraulics for the bucket and does anyone have suggestions on parts like a control valve?

A number of ideas so far, (as usual) so here's another one. If someone asked me to add in another valve I would probably start with one of these. Put this under the existing remote valves, use this to supply live oil to the loader valve (provided it's power beyond capable) and you have the two original remotes to work with again. If you want you can also go with a solenoid type divertor valve for a grapple using one of the existing loader spools. Your choice.

ADAPTER KIT

Adapter kit. Can replace OEM adapter plate 9613790. HV5902 kit features a plate with three ports: (1) pressure port, (1) power-beyond port and (1) return port. All ports 3/4 inch - 16 ORB. Use with a remote valve that has power beyond. Good for applications where valve might incurr shockloads...

shop.farmranchstore.com

 

[Sean in PA]

The HV4902 adapter kit does not require power beyond capabilities in the loader valve and will allow the existing remote valves and 3 point lift to function fine.

 

[Destroked 450]

I was going to recommend one of those adapters but he mentioned it was a cab tractor

 

[lwmille]

I was going to recommend one of those adapters but he mentioned it was a cab tractor

I wish it was open station

 

[Mobuck]

Just my opinion: those adaptor plates aren't all they're cracked up to be. More like a constant source of aggravation due to the continual O-ring blowout.

 

[Destroked 450]

I’ve done 3 so far with no leaks, did fix one that was leaking were the installer installed the wrong o-ring in one location
Need to install 2 more on a couple of my tractors and one on a brothers

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Just my opinion: those adaptor plates aren't all they're cracked up to be. More like a constant source of aggravation due to the continual O-ring blowout.

My 5000 has had one of those adaptor plates on it for 30 some years and to my knowledge it's never had an o-ring problem. I can say with certainty it hasn't been touched in the 20 years since I long term borrowed it from my father in law.

 

[SkipperII]

My 5000 has had one of those adaptor plates on it for 30 some years and to my knowledge it's never had an o-ring problem. I can say with certainty it hasn't been touched in the 20 years since I long term borrowed it from my father in law.

I agree, I don't know how many I put on Majors, and 5000s back in the 60s-70s. Never had any problems.

 

[Sean in PA]

I've only installed one. That was about 12 years ago and I haven't had any issues with o-rings or anything else..

 

[Mobuck]

I must have the only 'mutt' in the litter.
Does anyone have a source or part number for the O-ring kits that go with these adaptor plates? Maybe I'm getting the wrong ones. I just order the O-ring kits for the hydraulic outlet valve--takes two of them. Some times they only hold until I use the loader and then start weeping, seeping, piddling oil.