Identifying a Ford 5000

[jaybob]

Folks, I'm having the darnedest time making
sense of this. I can see the model. I can
see the SN. As for the date...? I'm going to
attempt to attach the photo on this post. I
THINK I see a 1J... but?

 

[jaybob]

1J would be a 71'? ... but this tractor has the louvered hood and the power steering under the hood. This should be 68' or earlier, right?

 

[RickB]

7J? Take a flexible abrasive wheel to the surface. Lightly.

 

[jaybob]

It does have a hood that has a vertical exhaust port. It was apparently refitted to be horizontal. That said, I suppose THIS hood could be a donor.

So, I have the SN from the engine: rd026474d65.. Sorry I'm not familiar with the date codes that you're asking for.

How do you know the serial number ranges for years? I've been looking for that info too. So, maybe another question that can clear things up, how do I know if I have the early (smaller) diesel vs the later one? Assuming of course, there was only the one major revision...?

Thanks!

 

[jaybob]

This picture was after a lot of cleaning with soap, water, and a kitchen sink brush... Guess I'm going to have to get a little more aggressive.

Thanks!

 

[Ultradog MN]

If you answer his question...
Whether it has screw in plugs or press in plugs will tell us the engine size.

 

[jaybob]

Ok. On to that, what am I looking for - or how do I tell?

 

[IndFord]

Hi Did you try taking a piece of paper and pencil and get a imprint of the numbers?

 

[Shetland Sheepdog]

The serial # sequence is for all the tractors built regardless of model. There were 35,100 tractors starting with 292100 and ending with 327200 built in 1971. Yours would probably have been built in the March-April time frame. However, it might have received a "donor" engine at some point. The plugs mentioned are the casting/freeze plugs found in the side of the engine block.
Your unit date code will probably read 1C or D##A or B or C
1 = 1971
C or D = March or April, one or the other, but not both
## = day of month, example; 23
A, B or C = 1st, 2nd or 3rd shift, example; B
So Number might read 1C23B, or something similar.
HTH, Dave

 

[Shetland Sheepdog]

There are also date codes, using the same system, stamped on other major components including but not limited to , engine, transmission, rear end, etc. I'm not familiar with all the locations, but someone with that knowledge may chime in.

 

[jaybob]

Ok, just checked. They are screw in plugs.

 

[Shetland Sheepdog]

Sounds like what you have is a "mutt"! That is a tractor made of parts from one or more donor tractors.

 

[jaybob]

I might try that tomorrow. Hadn't thought about it. Thanks for the idea!

 

[jaybob]

Oh, fantastic!

So, what do the screw in plugs mean?

 

[Ultradog MN]

Screw in plugs means it is a 233 CI engine.
So your tin and engine are pre 4/68 and your transmission is a 71.
No big deal. There's lots of mutts out there.

 

[jaybob]

Thanks to everyone for their help on this. I have a little better understanding of what is going on now. THIS is what makes the internet so great!

Thanks again!
Jay

 

[Sean in PA]

Since the tin and the engine seem to agree on a pre-4/68 tractor, my guess is that the transmission was replaced at some point with one from a 1971 tractor.

Check the rear axle trumpets, center housing and hydraulic top cover for date codes as well, because the swap might have been from the flywheel back if the front half was originally part of an S-O-S tractor.

 

[souNdguy]

233 egine..