IH C Loader

[viehauser3]

I recently purchased a 1951 Farmall Super C, it came with a loader. the Serial # plate on the loader says IH C, Along with something else that I will photo tomorrow again. My daughter is planning to restore it as a 4-H project. I was told they only made like 150 of these loaders, but I can't find any history or info on it. Can anyone help her identify, find history, and possibly correct paint info for this?

 

[caterpillar guy]

Frankly with no frame just the block to hold things together and by the looks of it only bolted to the rear axle and bellhousing I would eliminate the loader on it so I didn't break the ears off the block . Put the loader on an H or some other loader on it with frame rails from the rear axle to the front bolster so the engine block is not carrying the weight on it. Just me probably.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

The loader is probably a Wagner WM3 / WM-3. I knew it looked like a Wagner, they have a very distinct style. Below is a sales brochure for the WM-3 on a Case tractor but as you can see the framework is virtually identical.

While "cat guy's" concern has merit, you can see a brace running from front to back behind the hydraulic cylinder, so the engine is not bearing all the stress of the loader. It will be just fine if you don't use the tractor as a bulldozer or battering ram. Treat the loader as a giant scoop shovel or pitchfork.

That loader isn't the only unique aspect of your tractor. It appears that someone has installed Farmell H rear hubs, rims and tires on the tractor. It should have 9.5x36 or 11.2x36 tires on the rear and those appear to be 11.2x38 or 12.4x38. Farmall C rims are attached with tabs, and yours are fastened with clamps.

 

[504]

My factory I H loader has IH cast into ell of the pivot point and the oil tank is built into the cross brace.

 

[BradyPatoka]

Attached are pictures of my Wagner loader on a 1954 Farmall Super C w/ Fast Hitch. Unsure sure of model year but model number is WV3 IH C. Serial number is 878. Fairly strong loader with single acting lift cylinders and a double acting tilt cylinder from factory. It came with a small bucket, and we have fabricated a set of forks for it as well as a snowplow. I can answer any questions you may have.

 

[Earley Super C]

Hey Brady. I have the same setup on my 54 Super C. Rebuilt the motor after a friend decided he was done using the machine. Loader can lift more than many think if you have the back end weighed down right. I know the machine I have was previously used to move GM/Grey Marine 671 engines around, appx 2000lbs. I’d be interested to see your plow and fork setup.

 

[will-max dairy]

I recently purchased a 1951 Farmall Super C, it came with a loader. the Serial # plate on the loader says IH C, Along with something else that I will photo tomorrow again. My daughter is planning to restore it as a 4-H project. I was told they only made like 150 of these loaders, but I can't find any history or info on it. Can anyone help her identify, find history, and possibly correct paint info for this?View attachment 1686

Sounds like a great project. Have fun. Given the uniqueness of this setup; and the potential time that you and your daughter are going to put into it. Use it gently, or for fun... maybe push some fluffy snow off of the driveway once in a while...and you'll be fine.

 

[will-max dairy]

The loader is probably a Wagner WM3 / WM-3. I knew it looked like a Wagner, they have a very distinct style. Below is a sales brochure for the WM-3 on a Case tractor but as you can see the framework is virtually identical.

While "cat guy's" concern has merit, you can see a brace running from front to back behind the hydraulic cylinder, so the engine is not bearing all the stress of the loader. It will be just fine if you don't use the tractor as a bulldozer or battering ram. Treat the loader as a giant scoop shovel or pitchfork.

That loader isn't the only unique aspect of your tractor. It appears that someone has installed Farmell H rear hubs, rims and tires on the tractor. It should have 9.5x36 or 11.2x36 tires on the rear and those appear to be 11.2x38 or 12.4x38. Farmall C rims are attached with tabs, and yours are fastened with clamps.
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Barnyard's comment goes, pretty much for any loader on a non-industrial tractor before... oh... about 1965... 1970-ish.

The front ends of these old tractors weren't made to have a couple thousand pounds cantilevered off of them (regardless of how much weight you put on the back)... and, invariably, they put these massive scoops on them that would hold about three-thousand pounds of stone.

They're great for moving a few bales of hay... lawn clippings... maybe dump your wheelbarrows into it when you're cleaning horse stalls, to go make a pile of compost... and...sure... that one time, you moved an engine block... hopefully on a concrete floor or asphalt driveway.

But...take any one of these tractors out into some soft ground... load up that great big bucket with something dense... maybe uneven... and start driving around...

And you have a recipe for wrecking your nice, old, unique, restored tractor, or even worse, tipping it over.