IH584 problem taken care of

[old]

I drained the fuel tank and took the right hand side shut off valve off. It is the one that goes to the fuel filter. I found it was clogged up real bad. Cleaned it up and also took the cross over pipe off and replaced it with a rubber hose and that was opening up a clog in it will be easier. Fired it up but it did take longer then normal to fire but figured that was because it had died due to lack of fuel from yesterday. Sat and ran just fine and revved up just fine.

But if it was running lean on fuel will that cause it to run a bit hot like a gas engine does?? I have had a bit of problems with that also as of late

 

[wore out]

I drained the fuel tank and took the right hand side shut off valve off. It is the one that goes to the fuel filter. I found it was clogged up real bad. Cleaned it up and also took the cross over pipe off and replaced it with a rubber hose and that was opening up a clog in it will be easier. Fired it up but it did take longer then normal to fire but figured that was because it had died due to lack of fuel from yesterday. Sat and ran just fine and revved up just fine.

But if it was running lean on fuel will that cause it to run a bit hot like a gas engine does?? I have had a bit of problems with that also as of late

A diesel lacking enough fuel will simply lack HP, it won't run hotter.

 

[used red MN]

Glad you got it figured out. In addition to what wo said lack of fuel in a diesel is just as though you don’t have the throttle wide open, the IJP when starved just sends less to the injectors. You don’t have a specific air to fuel ratio required in a diesel like in a gas, as in it is to lean or to rich. All you need is an adequate amount of air compressed properly to burn the amount of injected fuel, addition air not used in combustion is just along for the ride. So in other words your cooling system may also have problems.

 

[old]

Glad you got it figured out. In addition to what wo said lack of fuel in a diesel is just as though you don’t have the throttle wide open, the IJP when starved just sends less to the injectors. You don’t have a specific air to fuel ratio required in a diesel like in a gas, as in it is to lean or to rich. All you need is an adequate amount of air compressed properly to burn the amount of injected fuel, addition air not used in combustion is just along for the ride. So in other words your cooling system may also have problems.

Well the radiator is all but new as in I had to get a new one right after I got it due to it burning in a fire. Up till I had this problem it has run just fine and no problems over heating but yes I know that can happen in a heart beat

 

[caterpillar guy]

Those models have no extra capacity in coolant so a little plugging will get hot fast. I have to blow out the rad on our loader tractor each summer during hay season and our 674 also or they will run hot during summer weather. Air or water will work to clean it out. So I use whichever I'm nearest to. Also clean the oil coolers out that are in front of the rad.

 

[cjunrau]

Well the radiator is all but new as in I had to get a new one right after I got it due to it burning in a fire. Up till I had this problem it has run just fine and no problems over heating but yes I know that can happen in a heart beat

doesn't hurt to change the thermostat as they can go bad after a few years or last 20-30.

 

[JimB2]

Look at the lower rad hose when you run the engine at PTO speed, with age the hose will become soft and collapse when water pump is running at high speed.

 

[old]

Look at the lower rad hose when you run the engine at PTO speed, with age the hose will become soft and collapse when water pump is running at high speed.

Radiator and hoses are all less then 4 years old. I had to replace all hoses and the radiator right after I got it due to it catching fire

 

[Janicholson]

Radiator and hoses are all less then 4 years old. I had to replace all hoses and the radiator right after I got it due to it catching fire

Did the new bottom hose have a spring in it or was it mighty stiff? I have seen 2 pretty new suck in. Jim

 

[Bruce from Can.]

We had the same problem with our CaseIH 585. When I took the shut off out of the bottom of the tank, the stuff that came out looked like an old Kleenex. My brothers 584 was starving for fuel, and we pulled off the fuel lines and they were plugged with what looked like the same junk. We concluded that it was possible that the stuff was spider webs or cocoons that had been built in the bulk fuel tank hoses. I always look into the end of the hose before I pump fuel now

 

[JimB2]

Did the new bottom hose have a spring in it or was it mighty stiff? I have seen 2 pretty new suck in. Jim

Jim in the case of my Dad's IH 454, the original had no spring and the replacement had a spring. JimB

 

[old]

Did the new bottom hose have a spring in it or was it mighty stiff? I have seen 2 pretty new suck in. Jim

I don't remember if it had a spring or now.

 

[T in NE]

I ran a steiger with a 3306 cat, when the fuel filter plugged, it smoked like a steam train and had no power.

 

[Texasmark]

Well the radiator is all but new as in I had to get a new one right after I got it due to it burning in a fire. Up till I had this problem it has run just fine and no problems over heating but yes I know that can happen in a heart beat

I recently bought a CIH 395 and 895, built in '90-94 time frame. I found that both required new thermostats to have a consistent temperature. Also found that there was a lot of corrosion floating around in the fluid so a good clean out and new 50-50 fixed me right up. Both stats were 182F or thereabouts as I remember and replaced with the same OEM stats. Both hoses on both tractors looked to be OEM and Neoprene as they were like new and looked and felt as such. I didn't find a drain cock on either....removing the lower hose at the radiator was the drain plus the one on the side of the block.