Issue getting air?

[MOmilkman]

Ive searched the forums and havent had any luck finding where this has previously been asked. Im sure it has, so maybe Im not efficient with the search function.
Anyways, heres my question.

Ive been having a issue getting my 8n to start. Its been a year since Ive got it to turn over. Ive even ran my battery dead a few times trying.
Today I thought Id give it another go.
Gas on, check.
Plenty of gas in the tank, check.
Made sure gas was getting to the carb. Check.
Crank, crank, crank. No start.
So I pulled the breather tube from the air filter to the carb and gas came out of the carb. I assume at this point it was flooded.
Gave it a few minutes and tried again and it fired right up and ran most excellent.
So I decided my trouble lies in it not getting air. But why?
I pulled the oil cup (pictured) off the bottom of the filter housing and there was quite a bit of oil in the inner part as well as the outer ring. Is this normal? Can it get air if both parts are filled with oil? I should have left the oil in before I took the pic.

It ran like a beast without anything hooked up to the air inlet side.

 

[zuhnc]

Bird or mouse nest in the main body inlet tube? Does it run properly without the cup on?

 

[R Geiger]

(quoted from post at 16:28:28 03/06/22) Ive searched the forums and havent had any luck finding where this has previously been asked. Im sure it has, so maybe Im not efficient with the search function.
Anyways, heres my question.

Ive been having a issue getting my 8n to start. Its been a year since Ive got it to turn over. Ive even ran my battery dead a few times trying.
Today I thought Id give it another go.
Gas on, check.
Plenty of gas in the tank, check.
Made sure gas was getting to the carb. Check.
Crank, crank, crank. No start.
So I pulled the breather tube from the air filter to the carb and gas came out of the carb. I assume at this point it was flooded.
Gave it a few minutes and tried again and it fired right up and ran most excellent.
So I decided my trouble lies in it not getting air. But why?
I pulled the oil cup (pictured) off the bottom of the filter housing and there was quite a bit of oil in the inner part as well as the outer ring. Is this normal? Can it get air if both parts are filled with oil? I should have left the oil in before I took the pic.

It ran like a beast without anything hooked up to the air inlet side.

There is an oil like mark in the cup, both the out and center should be full of oil up to the line. I think it is time to pull the fiber mesh out and clean it.

 

[MOmilkman]

(quoted from post at 15:33:38 03/06/22) Bird or mouse nest in the main body inlet tube? Does it run properly without the cup on?

That seems like a plausible next step. That would eliminate the possibility of anything being in that canister. (Above the cup)

 

[MOmilkman]

What weight of oil am I supposed to use?

 

[lha]

Turning over and starting are different things. If it won't turn over,it's seized,if it won't start while
turning over,you have one of several problems,compression,spark or fuel/air issues.

 

[lha]

Whatever you run in your engine.

 

[Leeland07]

(reply to post at 15:28:28 03/06/22)

I am going to agree on the plumed up air intake bit. the filter screen if it is there is the most likely culprit I would think, if not, find yourself with a very large home to an industrious field mouse.... good luck!

 

[showcrop]

When you have an updraft carburetor and you crank it for a few seconds with the choke pulled out without it starting, it is perfectly normal for gas to run out the carburetor throat. Now if you were to pull a plug and it is dripping gas, THEN it would be flooded.

 

[Rag-packer]

Had the same issue you described and cleaned the air filter including wire mesh, refilled cup to the line. Started right up .

 

[showcrop]

(quoted from post at 17:27:10 03/06/22) Turning over and starting are different things. If it won't turn over,it's seized,if it won't start while
turning over,you have one of several problems,compression,spark or fuel/air issues.

"turning over" should not be used. To any people it means "crank" to many others it means "start". Just use the proper words.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Agree.