It's been a while

[ss55]

I hate a thief as well and can understand your sentiment.
If the law would do something about the thieving I think it would change. chop a few fingers off with a old fashion chopping block. Maybe they would get the message. I don't know. Just seems that it just gets worse and I know here it is the same people in and out of jail on a monthly basis. Even a convicted thief, stole cars and ran from cops. 4 times in one year. the last time he killed a pregnant Women when he ran from them. got 5 years jail, but we know he won't be in that long.

I can certainly understand the sentiment that law enforcement always needs to do the maximum, every single time, for everyone.

However, law enforcement just like fire departments and emergency medical services is funded by the taxpayers mostly through local property taxes. So are the courts, so are the jails and so are the prisons, and they are all very expensive. How much are taxpayers and mostly the property taxpayers really obligated to pay to protect the property of someone who who does not make a reasonable effort to protect that same property? Sheds, fences, gates, locks, and simply keeping valuables out of sight from the road can do a lot to prevent theft.

Years ago fire departments and EMTs would ask for a voluntary contribution after they rendered help, especially from the people who could easily afford to do so. That was similar to current medical co-pays. It was an incentive to make a little effort to reduce the number of minor, but still very expensive emergencies.

Property crimes seem to be the highest in areas where economic opportunities are the most limited.

 

[ss55]

It's been a long time since I have been robbed. About 20 or so years ago someone took one of the batteries out of my JD 5020, when it was parked close to a road , I was disking. I wanted to use my pressure washer. It was missing, it was outside in my shop area where i keep my tractors. I live about a block away. My daughter lives on the property, and has carpenters installing a prefab small house for her daughter, and husband. Can't say someone on that job may have loaded it up, but you never know. Now I can't find my blower. Last time I used it, was to blow off the side walks on our Babtist Church. last Sunday. Some times I leave in my pickup. I haven't seen it since. Any one have something missing lately? stan

So called white collar crimes steal far more from more people than all petty thefts combined. Why aren't those white collar crimes also punished immediately by injury or death from the victims?

 

[Brown David]

Bunch of

Surprise......a person doesn't need church to be a decent person .

No surprise here.

I've encountered quite a few "Sunday morning Christians" over the years who couldn't be trusted.

 

[wh]

Many years ago had landline issues with new neighbor. Moved in and knew more than everyone else that had lived around here. Finally we had surveyor to run lines. As were were establishing corners neighbor says to dad “ I am a Christian and I want people to know that”. Dad replied “ if you are you do not have to tell people, it will just naturally get out on you”!

 

[1948CaseVAI]

@grandpa Love, Just keyboard tough guy warriors

I absolutely agree but I also know that in the vast sea of keyboard tough guys (and internet lawyers) there is always the chance of a weak-minded dolt who thinks it is real, and thus begins the problem. But thank you for your sanity. Experiences matter.

 

[EFV]

Nothing I own is worth killing another human.......

Apparently Grampa doesn't know the joke.
" when I knock the gorilla out of the tree the dog will grab him by his "privates"
so we can restrain him and take him away. What's the shotgun for ? If the gorilla knocks me out of the tree shoot the dog !"

 

[Tony in SD]

Not much of a problem around here but not looking forward to the problems a 25,000 cow dairy farm they plan on building will bring.

 

[TheBartman47]

Someone stole my networking tool box out of my car a couple years ago... CAT5 wire end crimpers, cable tester/tone & trace, various other hand tools and wiring accessories. All-in-all a bit over $1,000 worth.
Other thieves are 4-legged or no-legged taking chickens or the eggs.

 

[MKinON]

I don't know all the ins and outs about the American or Canadian for that matter laws on guns. But as many criminals who have committed offences using firearms and are still not in jail, I find it interesting that when a law abiding citizen uses a gun to defend his property he is automatically in jail for life. At least that is what those on this forum say.
My neighbor shot a native with a shotgun about 15-20 years ago when he stole gas from his tank. He had in that year lost 2-3 300gallon tanks of gas. He knew who was doing it and it was a free for all. they did come armed with 22's. Cops did nothing until he shot the guy. He had a lock on it and they would bust it and fill 2 or 3 vehicles every time. He was a farmer and was not going to stop having gas on his yard. could he have made it burglar proof. Yes with some electrical and expenses I am sure he could of.
He got 3-4 years in jail but was out in a couple. He did not kill the guy and had no intentions of killing him.
Last summer a group of them were stealing from farms and were caught on many cameras and all were armed and they used the rifles as well and injured one or 2 people. I think they may have killed one man and his wife. In all those instances I do believe that the farmer should have every right to shoot back. I am not sayin kill someone but cut them off at the knees. Not like that would help as then taxes have to pay for his food and housing. we need to bring back hard labor jails. Insurance does not pay you enough to just say let them steal it. My dad can testify to that. He had a 2 year old side by side stollen and got close to $5000 less than he should have. Same machine with more hours was selling that much higher on all sales and dealer lots. Cops told him we won't even go look for it, just call your insurance. They knew exactly where it was but there is so much on the reserves that is stollen they don't bother even looking for it. When people have the idea that insurance can pay for it makes me sick. that is like saying if you want something that is not yours, just take it, I have insurance.

I don't have insurance and if my dog bites and tears a crook apart I will not feel bad at all. Would I arm myself and shoot at someone, No, But would I give him a whipping if I could, You bet.
I think if we had less opportunity to go on welfare people may actually work instead of steal.

Sure, call insurance, get a heavily discounted payout for something that's up 20% with inflation and then pay an extra 10% or more on next year's and subsequent premiums so they get it back! Now you've just been had twice. Don't know if I'd shoot anyone if I had the means, but I sure wouldn't lose any sleep over it if I or someone else did. If you're in a bad state, ask me for help, I'll try my best, steal from me or anyone else, good riddance!