John Deere Row Binder

[StacieMV]

I need some help. My son and FIL are working on a project for our county fair. We have a John Deere Row Binder that belonged to MIL family. Goal is to restore it. Need help with what year it is for parts and to find a manual. Currently we can’t find the year or serial number on it. We will try to clean up a little more and keep looking but any help would be appreciated. I’ll post more pictures in the morning to help with year. Along with the tires and rims, they are rubber.
Made in Welland, Ontario
Hitch for a tractor to pull, seat is missing.
All parts I can see start and end with an “H”

 

[rustred]

Yes , pictures. I have j d grain binders , but no idea what a row binders is ?

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

Yes , pictures. I have j d grain binders , but no idea what a row binders is ?

Most likely a corn binder, was what I thought.

Looking forward to the pics.

Mike

 

[StacieMV]

Yes , pictures. I have j d grain binders , but no idea what a row binders is ?

That’s the other question…they called it a row binder but everything I can find is either corn or grain binder. So not sure which one it is.

 

[Timmycornpicker]

That’s the other question…they called it a row binder but everything I can find is either corn or grain binder. So not sure which one it is.

That's a corn binder. I've seen them used to cut cane sorghum and mammoth sunflowers. Probably anything in a row that was tall enough for the mechanism to properly tie it could be done with one.

 

[Timmycornpicker]

That’s the other question…they called it a row binder but everything I can find is either corn or grain binder. So not sure which one it is.

If you go to the JD parts site, you can still access the ground driven corn binder parts books, believe it or not. https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc...OLDMzNzc6I0NBVEFMT0csMTM4NTY6RVFVSVBNRU5UXQ==

 

[rustred]

That’s the other question…they called it a row binder but everything I can find is either corn or grain binder. So not sure which one it is.

yes, corn binder , not a grain binder. kinda funny but them old ihc trucks were called corn binders! i will get u a pic. of the grain binder.

 

[StacieMV]

If you go to the JD parts site, you can still access the ground driven corn binder parts books, believe it or not. https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/navigation/equipment/13856/level/2/snp/MTEzMDgwOkNIQVBURVJbMTA2MTojQlVTSU5FU1NfUkVHSU9OLDMzNzc6I0NBVEFMT0csMTM4NTY6RVFVSVBNRU5UXQ==

Thanks. I had found that and was not sure if it mattered on year. I guess they can still get the parts for it?

 

[StacieMV]

yes, corn binder , not a grain binder. kinda funny but them old ihc trucks were called corn binders! i will get u a pic. of the grain binder.

Thanks!

 

[rustred]

Here u go. This is a john Deere 10 ft. Binder. My dad used these binders right up till 1972.they are 1950’s vintage. Before my time he had the horse drawn binder that was driven by the bull wheel not pto tractor. Driven. My Job was to drive the tractor for him before I was 10 years old. As he rode the binder. I last did a demo thrashing in 1999 and 2000 was the last year doing that. Threw in this case thresher. It’s not the one we used. I have that one in the shed.

 

[Timmycornpicker]

Thanks. I had found that and was not sure if it mattered on year. I guess they can still get the parts for it?

I doubt Deere actually has any parts for them . . . but there are guys out there that might. One you can search up is BW Macknair in Pennsylvania. Norman Macknair, who took over from his father, rebuilds stuff for the Amish in his area (including corn binders) and he has NOS and good used parts for all kinds of old horse-drawn equipment.

 

[StacieMV]

I doubt Deere actually has any parts for them . . . but there are guys out there that might. One you can search up is BW Macknair in Pennsylvania. Norman Macknair, who took over from his father, rebuilds stuff for the Amish in his area (including corn binders) and he has NOS and good used parts for all kinds of old horse-drawn equipment.

Thanks for the help! This one is not horse drawn but tractor. Would the parts be similar enough? Dose he have a website or I can find him on the web? I feel like most of the parts should be there, it would just be a matter of if they will “unfreeze” water they get cleaned up and greased.

 

[DanielW]

If it's anything like the Deere (and other manufacturers') grain binders of the same era, most of the common wear-parts you probably need are likely available elsewhere. Chains will be a standard sizes available aftermarket. Most of the bushings/bearings will be either standard brass/bronze bushings or the cylindrical roller caster-style bearings . If bushings, just measure and order accordingly - lots of suppliers out there. I use RBL or Atlas Bronze, but lots of others suppliers out there).

If bearings are the cylindrical roller old-school bearings, the company 'Berliss' makes those bearings in about every size you could imagine. Any bearing/industrial supply worth their salt should be able to order from Berliss. See this pdf catalog:

 

[StacieMV]

If it's anything like the Deere (and other manufacturers') grain binders of the same era, most of the common wear-parts you probably need are likely available elsewhere. Chains will be a standard sizes available aftermarket. Most of the bushings/bearings will be either standard brass/bronze bushings or the cylindrical roller caster-style bearings . If bushings, just measure and order accordingly - lots of suppliers out there. I use RBL or Atlas Bronze, but lots of others suppliers out there).

If bearings are the cylindrical roller old-school bearings, the company 'Berliss' makes those bearings in about every size you could imagine. Any bearing/industrial supply worth their salt should be able to order from Berliss. See this pdf catalog:

Thanks!

 

[Timmycornpicker]

Thanks for the help! This one is not horse drawn but tractor. Would the parts be similar enough? Dose he have a website or I can find him on the web? I feel like most of the parts should be there, it would just be a matter of if they will “unfreeze” water they get cleaned up and greased.

The only difference between the horse-drawn and tractor-drawn ground drive corn binders was the hitch. If you're not planning on towing it on pavement, instead of trying to track down a good set of spoked wheels to put expensive new tires on, you might try to find a set of good all-steel wheels like most of them had. Just google BW Macknair, you'll find the website.

 

[mijohn]

That was my second job in the field, RIDING THE CORN BINDER TO TRIP THE BUNDLE CARRIER. I WAS FIVE OR SIX AT THE TIME. My next job
was plowing with our John Deere M with one bottom mounted plow. My brother was plowing with our new to us, a John Deere A with a two bottom 2-14s model 44 plow. Thanks for refreshing the memories. john