Just another death machine

[SVcummins]

Can you imagine if you had no sense and were to stick your head through the chain and sprocket while your loading hay ?!? Better hurry and have a politician make a law and an engineer design a cover for that thing . Better yet let?s just sit in the house to scared to go outside because our shadow might scare us to death

Maybe I?ll call George he might be smart enough not to stick his head in the sprocket

 

[Philip d]

It?s one of those things. All it would take is the neighbours up the road?s 12 year old son Johnny, who never helped load hay before loose his hand. A case where everyone was too busy to show the kids the dangers ,one gets too curious or in the wrong place at the wrong time and it?s too late. I?m studying electrical code right now and they say that code books are written in blood. Meaning common sense doesn?t always prevail and if it can happen eventually it will.

 

[sotxbill]

but what's to stop them from sticking head under the tire? or drinking gasoline?

 

[FBH44]

Exactly.

 

[Traditional Farmer]

I agree if a person is going to hire help or have friends helping anything like a open chain,PTO shield off etc is just a law suit waiting to happen.Exactly why I don't let anyone around my equipment when I'm using it.

 

[jon f mn]

Which George? There are several here, some more likely than others to loose a digit in a freak leaf shredder accident.

 

[oldtanker]

(quoted from post at 16:44:16 09/18/19) Can you imagine if you had no sense and were to stick your head through the chain and sprocket while your loading hay ?!? Better hurry and have a politician make a law and an engineer design a cover for that thing . Better yet let?s just sit in the house to scared to go outside because our shadow might scare us to death
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You never get tired of trolling people do you?

If you took care of your equipment it wouldn't have those issues. That's just poor maintenance.

Rick

 

[OregonAaron]

This world has gone overboard with their perspective of safety. If YOU can safely operate your equipment or your improvised equipment- then use it. If others are going to use it then its your responsibility to make sure they are smart enough not to get hurt or show them how to use it properly. I do plenty of redneck engineering and am proud of my contraptions that save me time and money. It amazes me how quick people on this site are to bash on other folks.

 

[old]

Almost funny since not long ago I had some one asked me about a JD bale picker that is a lot like that one and they where having problem with the chain so they asked me to look at it

 

[RobCons]

Doesnt have to be someone sticking their hand/head into something on purpose because of a lack of knowledge. As I've aged my legs and feet dont work like they used so I stumble and reach out to catch myself frequently. All it takes is one time.

 

[SVcummins]

Know one should be near any piece of equipment while it?s in motion simple as that. Shut it off before you do anything .

 

[SVcummins]

I wonder how I would put a shield on that since it
would to cover the tire to ?

 

[SVcummins]

It?s a risk we?ll just have to take I guess

 

[SVcummins]

The one made the weed mower but since he hasn?t replied maybe he already got ground up ?

 

[SVcummins]

Rob I can?t argue that . It just means we have to be
that much more careful

 

[SVcummins]

I?d like to find a John Deere bale loader to

 

[old]

I'd like ot find most any bale loader be it what ever brand sure would save the back and arms etc.

 

[SVcummins]

Exactly.

 

[SVcummins]

I?m excited to try this one . If I can make it work I can put up hay with just two people instead of 3 . I can usually always find someone to help but finding two people is pretty hard .

 

[NCWayne]

It all comes down to people not being taught one thing. If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT.

In nearly any profession where there is moving equipment, parts under tension, or compression, etc, the chances of getting hurt, or killed, will never go completely away, regardless of how careful you are, or how much the Government tries to protect idiots from themselves...... The ONLY way to really lessen the chances of anybody getting hurt is exactly what I stated in the first paragraph......If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT.....

While I applaud the inception of agencies like OSHA, in regard to employers not being allowed to force people to do something stupid in order to keep their job, the whole 'Government has to protect everyone' mantra has done nothing but protect idiots from themselves, and allowed them to breed more idiots.....with none of them ever being taught, or passing on to their offspring exactly what I stated before...... If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT......

 

[oldtanker]

(quoted from post at 22:04:32 09/18/19)


While I applaud the inception of agencies like OSHA, in regard to employers not being allowed to force people to do something stupid in order to keep their job, the whole 'Government has to protect everyone' mantra has done nothing but protect idiots from themselves, and allowed them to breed more idiots.....with none of them ever being taught, or passing on to their offspring exactly what I stated before...... If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT......

Agree 100%

Rick

 

[Traditional Farmer]

I agree but the problem these days is with liability law being what it is no matter how stupid a person you have working around your equipment is if they get hurt you are
usually held liable when they file a lawsuit.I'm not saying its right but that is just the way it works these days.

 

[r.w.b.]

About 8 years ago a drunk was traveling I 44 east of joplin,mo.his kidneys were full so he had cruise on,opened his door and proceeded to relieve himself.needless to say it became a fatality.
Mshp did a 2 million dollar study how to prevent this from happening???

 

[Geo-TH,In]

My dad had a device like that. We had a flat bed international truck. Dad made a way to attach it to side of truck. I was the youngest, so I drove the truck. Another person had to line up the bales. Another person on the truck take bales off loader and stacked. It was a sweet machine. Made things easier. Dad ran the baler and could go faster without pulling a wagon. If I remember, we could stack about 200 bales on the flatbed. Used truck when we had a long distance to haul hay.

Like to report, No one got killed growing up on a farm.

 

[Geo-TH,In]

SV
I'm not dead yet. I even used seat belt.

Wasn't hit by weeds. I was able to drop mower between flowers. Mowed places that no

Mower could go .
It may be difficult for you to tell the difference between weeds and the BOSSES flowers. The BOSS was pleased too.
I adjusted the chain to angle deck to discharge away from tractor.

Biggest problem are trees. I lowered mower and chopped the trees.

 

[Tony in SD]

An Engineer friend of mine was getting a factory in Mexico running. He heard an air compressor start and Noticed the compress had no shields over the pulleys and belt. My friend asked where is the shield? The Mexicans reply was ?Shield, we don?t understand shield?. So my friend said ?It?s a cover over the belt and pulleys so no one can stick their finger in and get it cut off?. The Mexicans reply was ?Who would be so stupid to do something like that?? Darwinism at its finest.

 

[showcrop]

(quoted from post at 22:04:32 09/18/19) It all comes down to people not being taught one thing. If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT.

In nearly any profession where there is moving equipment, parts under tension, or compression, etc, the chances of getting hurt, or killed, will never go completely away, regardless of how careful you are, or how much the Government tries to protect idiots from themselves...... The ONLY way to really lessen the chances of anybody getting hurt is exactly what I stated in the first paragraph......If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT.....

While I applaud the inception of agencies like OSHA, in regard to employers not being allowed to force people to do something stupid in order to keep their job, the whole 'Government has to protect everyone' mantra has done nothing but protect idiots from themselves, and allowed them to breed more idiots.....with none of them ever being taught, or passing on to their offspring exactly what I stated before...... If you don't know what the heck you're doing, DON'T DO IT......

NC Wayne, My 36 years on fire and rescue has shown me that people are often VERY CONFIDENT that they knew what they were doing until they suddenly got a surprise. People don't automatically know enough about something to recognize that there is something that they don't know.

 

[MarkB_MI]

I don't agree with your idea that it's somehow noble to operate inherently dangerous equipment. How many children have been maimed or killed by grain augers? I personally know of two, so the total must be in the thousands. I guess those kids just didn't have enough sense to not get tangled up in such a common piece of equipment. Well, they learned their lesson, didn't they? Those that survived, that is.

Let me tell you the story of one Steve Gass. He invented a mechanism that made it essentially impossible to cut off one's finger on a table saw. Anyone who has been around woodworkers knows this is a common injury, even among experienced operators. He first tried to sell his invention to each of the major saw makers. They all turned him down. Their products met federal standards, after all, so why would they spend more money to make them safer?

Stymied by his efforts to license his invention, Gass went into the table saw business himself. Today, his SawStop company is doing quite well, even though its products are pricey. It turns out folks are willing to pay a lot more money for a saw if they know they won't lose a finger in it. It didn't take the Nanny State or a bunch of bleeding hearts to make his company successful, just a quality, safe product and customers who value safety. And for those, like yourself, who think product safety is rubbish, they're still free to buy a table saw that can easily remove fingers.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 23:12:16 09/18/19) I?d like to find a John Deere bale loader to

Here's a JD 990 bale loader for sale. All you need to do is make a trip to Texas.
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/grd/d/farmersville-john-deere-pop-up-square/6979186203.html

 

[ztrmowers]

go to bale basket wagons or accumulator that what I used to run when doing small squares the second option never touch bale all season the first only when alined bales for grapple.

 

[old]

Years ago it was easy to find people to help with hay but now days unless your going to pay $20 and hour next to impossible. That is what the guy with the JD bale loader pays for help so he got the loader to save $$

 

[ss55]

Common sense is not something anyone has ever been born with. Everyone gains sense through experience, guidance from an experienced person, education and making mistakes in the school of hard knocks. To assume everyone has the same experience or "common sense" is a grave error.

 

[Geo-TH,In]

Anyone allowing children around when operating may machine is an example of child endangerment

Tree trimmer brought his 7 year old with him. I was helping him because tree trimmer was short on help. Every time I back up, there's the boy behind me. So I put him on the seat with me. He drove, I ran the controls. YT OSHA my not agree, but going slow and kid in my lap was better than running the kid over.

Dad approved. No one was harmed. The kid should have stayed home.. Too dangerous for a kid to be around when cutting down a tree.

 

[SVcummins]

Or the guy was just smart enough to not stick his hand in moving machinery ?

 

[OregonAaron]

It's kinda like running a brush beater on a 9n without a overrun coupler. Some may say its unsafe, but with some foresight and telling people to stay clear while I'm operating there is little danger.

 

[jacksun65]

My Uncle figured how to fix that, He drilled a hole in the floor and attached a funnel and hose. $5 the MSHP should have talked to him and saved some money LOL

 

[Geo-TH,In]

What the historical YT OSHA people do understand is the chain isn't moving unless the wheels are moving. And if you are stupid enough to get your hand in the sprocket, you'll get run over first.

 

[Duane WI]

Everyone should please read the post that is a few above this one about a tragic tractor accident. Being careful is great until the unplanned happens. The thing you just did not think about goes wrong. The thing that you wouldn't think could happen in a million years happens. It takes being careful and good safe equipment. Safe equipment doesn't fix being careless and being careful doesn't fix unsafe equipment. You need both and things can still go bad but it happens a lot less. Life isn't perfect but you can improve your odds.

 

[showcrop]

(quoted from post at 07:26:27 09/19/19) It's kinda like running a brush beater on a 9n without a overrun coupler. Some may say its unsafe, but with some foresight and telling people to stay clear while I'm operating there is little danger.

Aaron, sounds like you must not wear a seat belt, and that you smoke, and text while driving, and run with scissors too.

 

[old]

Sure would have been nice to have that today. We picked up around 130 bales today. Low 90s but the feel like temp was in the upper 90s. Sold about half and the other half had to go in the barn or in the shed still on the truck

 

[chuck2015]

(quoted from post at 20:05:43 09/18/19) Know one should be near any piece of equipment while it?s in motion simple as that. Shut it off before you do anything .

Thats just common sense but often we are too rushed, too tired, too distracted and so on. Or too comfortable around a dangerous machine..all it takes is a split second and its allo ver.