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[mpbohio]

Posted on 6-16 regarding my non-starting 6v 8N after a stuck fan belt episode. Just replaced the solenoid and still not a sound when trying to start.

I'm not sure I completely understand Dell's jump start procedure using a 12v batt. In addition to that, what else could I have done to the old girl?

Thanks.

 

[HCooke]

To jump start with a 12 volt battery -- MAKE SURE TRACTOR IS IN NEUTRAL. Then connect one jumper wire from the 12 battery to the stud on the starter motor. Now connect the other jumper wire to any ground - I use a bare spot on the clutch pedal. If the starter is good it will spin - if not time to take it to a auto electric repair shop

 

[Devious]

Hi there. I do not get it . You have a wire from the batt to the starter, OK I get the but now you say, hook another wire to a ground on the clutch pedal. That leaves you standing there hold the end of a wire. What is going on?? Devious

 

[BillM (OH)]

Put tractor in NEUTRAL, or it'll run you down when it starts.
Hook one jumper from a 12V battery (truck, car, whatever) to the stud on the starter.
Turn on the tractor ignition and give it a bit of throttle.
Hook the other jumper from the other terminal on the 12V battery to a ground on the tractor - I use a footplate.
Starter should spin and tractor should start.
Do not crank starter very long if it doesn't start.

 

[souNdguy]

did you get a real OEm 8n solenoid or something for a car? N solenoids require ground on the lil wire to activate.. most others require power to the lil wire.

soundguy

 

[DollarBill]

[b:3652800bd0][color=darkred:3652800bd0]Just replaced the solenoid and still not a sound when trying to start. [/color:3652800bd0][/b:3652800bd0]

As Chris indicated, the solenoids are internally different between a tractor and a car. If you do indeed have a 4 terminal automotive style relay, it can be used with a jumper wire from the large battery stud to one of the small studs for the starter switch to afford the solenoid a path to ground.

Here's the relationship between the battery/switch/solenoid/starter: A large cable runs from the negative battery post down to a small can called the solenoid (solenoid is a remotely controlled switch). When the solenoid is engaged, current flows from the battery, through the solenoid, and into the L-shaped connector on the other side of the solenoid that goes to the copper stud protruding from the starter. Since the starter case is grounded to the chassis (like the battery), this completes the the circuit and spins the starter. The solenoid is engaged when you press the starter button that allows current to flow through a small electromagnet which throws the starter switch. The relay coil gets power from the solenoid terminal that connects to the battery. The other end is connected to the starter switch, which completes the circuit to ground when pressed.

If your solenoid isn't clicking it's either: faulty, the wrong style, isn't wired correctly or there's a loose connection.


Check and post back for more help.