Loader tilt cylinder substitute?

Kendm1

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I just bought a Mitsubishi satoh buck and one tilt bucket cylinder rod is bent, the main cylinder body is 24" and I believe the rod is 18", any idea if cylinders are available for this specifically or if others will work? Thanks in advance.
 
I just bought a Mitsubishi satoh buck and one tilt bucket cylinder rod is bent, the main cylinder body is 24" and I believe the rod is 18", any idea if cylinders are available for this specifically or if others will work? Thanks in advance.
Per Google, Mahindra is the current distributor for Satoh tractors. Any replacement cylinder from the dealer is likely to be very pricey. However, any cylinder with matching mounting points, stroke length, and diameter should work. Pin diameter, stroke length and diameter are critical for matching the other cylinder. Tractordata doesn't give hydraulic pressure, but it is almost certainly 2000 psi or less. Pretty much every hydraulic cylinder made these days is capable of 2000 psi of pressure.

Baileyhydraulics.com and surpluscenter.com have a variety of hydraulic cylinders for sale.

Things to look for: Mounting pin diameter, width of the mounting points on each end, stroke length, rod diameter, and diameter of the inside of the cylinder. As said, match these up to yours and you'll be good to go as a replacement.

A picture of your cylinder would be helpful.
 
I just bought a Mitsubishi satoh buck and one tilt bucket cylinder rod is bent, the main cylinder body is 24" and I believe the rod is 18", any idea if cylinders are available for this specifically or if others will work? Thanks in advance.
A good hydraulic shop or even a welding/machine shop if you're near farming country should be able to fabricate a new cylinder rod from a bulk "stick" of chromed rod.

Look into this as an option, depending upon a quote you might get for that job vs. a new cylinder IF one can be found.
 
Unfortunately, loader cylinders are rarely "standard." They're custom lengths for the specific loader they mount on, and as DRussell says above, factory cylinders will be very expensive, if you can even get them. Getting cylinders for an out-of-production loader on a gray market tractor from 30-40 years ago is a long shot. Getting them from Mahindra is a long shot with a capital LONG. Getting current parts for in-production tractors from Mahindra is a long shot. I've heard nothing good about Mahindra service after-the-sale.

You will probably need to try and find something close. Maybe you'll luck out and find something very close or an exact match, but be prepared for the very real possibility that you will have to adapt and overcome.

To start with you need two important measurements, the distance center-of-pin to center-of-pin with the bucket fully retracted, and the same measurement with the bucket fully extended. Subtract the extended measurement from the retracted to get your stroke length. So now you have a closed length and a stroke length. Time to go shopping for cylinders. A good place to start for that is Surplus Center.

Depending on how badly bent the rod is, you may be able to bend it back or have it bent back. The bucket tilt cylinder on my Dad's loader had a good bow to it, but strategic location of a block and judicious application of hydraulic pressure got it pretty straight. It now has a slight S to it but it's almost unnoticeable and the cylinder doesn't leak much, so all is well.
 
I've replaced a number of cylinders, both bucket and lift. Magister Hydraulics sells a large assortment of sizes and can probably come close enough to work. Sometimes it requires getting "creative" with fittings and/or hoses, but I've always managed to make it work.

 
I just bought a Mitsubishi satoh buck and one tilt bucket cylinder rod is bent, the main cylinder body is 24" and I believe the rod is 18", any idea if cylinders are available for this specifically or if others will work? Thanks in advance.
Why not take it to a machine shop and have a new rod made? It's a pretty simple process, and generally a lot cheaper than a complete replacement cylinder.
I see now this has already been mentioned above, I think it's a good idea too.
 
I straightened the tilt cylinders on Dads loader by wedging a block between the arm and cylinder shaft then worked bucket tilt and moved block as needed. I don't see a bend anymore buy it does hesitate a bit in a certain place if you are trying to disconnect or connect the pins for a bucket on or off. Don't seem to leak much just keeps the arm damp. Been that way now for 40some years never been apart so must be pretty close.
 
I straightened one yesterday. A good hydraulic press some vee blocks, a piece of aluminum and a little patience.
And a nice flat surface, like the cast top on a tablesaw. They really aren't that hard to straighten, as long as they aren't bent so bad the chrome plating is cracked. Almost any hydraulic shop can make a new one, like Mcrafty and Woreout say. Or they know where it can be done. steve
 
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