Massey 1130 Engine rebuild

[Dirtpoorcattle]

I have a Massey 1130 and the engine needs to be rebuilt. Wanted to get some thoughts on weather I should rebuild it or just replace the tractor

 

[JLMac]

You likely would get more feedback if you posted this in the Massey Harris & Massey Ferguson forum, and it can move off the first page quickly in this forum.

 

[showcrop]

you need to find out what the rebuild will cost against what it will be worth once done. There are a lot of sites that advertise used tractors or tell what they sold for at auction.

 

[tom upton]

I have a Massey 1130 and the engine needs to be rebuilt. Wanted to get some thoughts on weather I should rebuild it or just replace the tractor

If the rest of the tractor is in decent shape I would rebuild it. You are not going to buy much of a tractor for even double what rebuild cost will be. OR maybe a cheaper solution look for another good 354 out of a combine or something?? Around here tractors of that vintage are bringing more than they ever have.

 

[Blackhole49]

I don't know if they are similar, but I think Bill VA had an 1105 rebuilt a few years ago.

 

[ss55]

I have a Massey 1130 and the engine needs to be rebuilt. Wanted to get some thoughts on weather I should rebuild it or just replace the tractor

This is a good time to upgrade if needed. If you sell it later, plan that you will be lucky to recover the cost of the new parts and will get nothing back on the labor whether a shop does the work or you do it yourself. Does this tractor meet you present and near future needs? Does it need any additional repairs?

 

[504]

Good old tractor.I would do an inframe as long as the rank is ok. 130 hp is easy to get, and cheaper than an unknown tractor to replace it.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

What makes you think it needs to be rebuilt? A drip, a little smoke, a little oil consumption, is no reason to condemn an engine. How many hours do you put on the tractor in a year? Is it able to do the jobs it needs to do?

You can buy a lot of oil for what it's going to cost to overhaul that engine, though the Perkins 6.354 series engines do seem to have excellent parts support yet.

 

[Dirtpoorcattle]

had a main rod bearing go out

 

[Dirtpoorcattle]

The rest of the tractor is in decent shape. And this tractor will do way more then what I need at the moment and near future. I am a newer generation farmer and I farm about 30 acres

 

[caterpillar guy]

Was it a main or a rod. They are not the same and a lot of difference in the problem. IF a main the crank would need to come out to have it turned same as a rod though depending on the block if the block is damaged it would need to go to be bored and a new shell for that main if a rod then the block would not need machining just the rod checked for out of round on the bottom end. None of this would require it to have a set of sleeves and pistons changed in it. For block work the pistons would need to be out but not the sleeves. If just the rod then that would only require that one rod to come out and the whole piston could be taken in to check the rod. All depends on what happened and how long it was run with the bad bearing.

 

[Dirtpoorcattle]

Definitely need the crank turned it’s not damaged just has aluminum built up on where the main rod bearing spun. So I was thinking of doing a fresh rebuild on the whole engine. New sleeves rings valves etc. I figure it will cost me around 4 to 5 k and I bought the tractor 4 years ago for 3200 so I will be in it under 10k for that kind of horse power may not be too bad ??

 

[Dieseltech]

Definitely need the crank turned it’s not damaged just has aluminum built up on where the main rod bearing spun. So I was thinking of doing a fresh rebuild on the whole engine. New sleeves rings valves etc. I figure it will cost me around 4 to 5 k and I bought the tractor 4 years ago for 3200 so I will be in it under 10k for that kind of horse power may not be too bad ??

I really doubt you need the crank turned IF there's just aluminum stuck to the crank. I've cleaned off the aluminum with a paint brush and Muriatic acid from the hardware store, but it MUST be done OUTSIDE, and DO NOT BREATH THE FUMES! If I recall as an OLD MF mechanic, the Perkins turbo engine cranks can't be reground UNLESS heat treated again after regrinding. I'd try the acid first, as the crank might be fine underneath after the aluminum is melted off the crank.

 

[used red MN]

where the main rod bearing

Hello Dirt.., welcome to YT! Just for clarification purposes in the future a crankshaft has “rod” bearings and “main” bearings. The rod bearings are generally called rod big end bearings or just “rod bearings” The “main” crankshaft bearings are what the crankshaft spins on in the block. Using “main rod” together is confusing in normal engine nomenclature. Some photos of the crankshaft rod bearing journals (surfaces) where the bearing material has transferred to might help additional eyes give you some insight on where you’re at.