McCormick Deering Super W-4

[Deering]

I have a 1948 McCormick Deering Super W-4 and the rear wheels are seized solid. It has been sitting in a good location for over 10 years and will not roll forward or backward.
The weather here is below 32 degrees Fahrenheit and I have not had such a problem before in the warmer months.
The engine turns over and the clutch seams to be free.
Wondering if anyone has had such a problem?
Also, does anyone know what lubricants to put in the transmission and rear end, and where does the fluids go in?
Thanks in advance. :?

 

[fastfarmall]

I would guess there is condensation in the grease, too much anyway and it frozen, same thing happen to my M, on the Farmhand loader M,just wait till it gets nicer and drain it out!

 

[rustred]

Check the brakes first! I have see lots of these tractors with
stuck brakes. More so with the disc brakes. Other option is
water in diff. Pull the rear drain plug and check it

 

[Deering]

(quoted from post at 19:57:39 02/23/21) I would guess there is condensation in the grease, too much anyway and it frozen, same thing happen to my M, on the Farmhand loader M,just wait till it gets nicer and drain it out!

Thank you for the quick reply. Do you know what fluid goes into the transmission/gearbox? It says 24 quarts, but I don't know the fluid.

 

[rustred]

80-90 gear oil. Is just fine. They came with a 140 wt gear oil
but that is not nessesary. Plus take into account 80-90 is good
for winter use.

 

[DR. EVIL]

You better check the serial number of your tractor and compare it to the information listed on the YT
model info or the TractorData page. A Super W-4 was not built in 1948, more like 1953 & 1954.
My Guy Fay IH DATA BOOK is beyond my grasp right now, but it would describe the differences.

 

[Deering]

(quoted from post at 19:57:39 02/23/21) I would guess there is condensation in the grease, too much anyway and it frozen, same thing happen to my M, on the Farmhand loader M,just wait till it gets nicer and drain it out!

When you drained the oil from your M, did pure water come out first, then the oil next, or was the water mixed in with the oil?
It's above freezing here for the last couple of days, and I drained some of the oil out of the lower rear end, and it came out in a black goupy oil. Any thoughts?

 

[Longknife]

(quoted from post at 01:23:27 02/25/21)

(quoted from post at 19:57:39 02/23/21) I would guess there is condensation in the grease, too much anyway and it frozen, same thing happen to my M, on the Farmhand loader M,just wait till it gets nicer and drain it out!

When you drained the oil from your M, did pure water come out first, then the oil next, or was the water mixed in with the oil?
It's above freezing here for the last couple of days, and I drained some of the oil out of the lower rear end, and it came out in a black goupy oil. Any thoughts?

Black and goupy is good, it still need changed though. If it had water in it then it would be brown like a chocolate milk shake!

 

[Deering]

(quoted from post at 09:07:17 02/25/21)

(quoted from post at 01:23:27 02/25/21)

(quoted from post at 19:57:39 02/23/21) I would guess there is condensation in the grease, too much anyway and it frozen, same thing happen to my M, on the Farmhand loader M,just wait till it gets nicer and drain it out!

When you drained the oil from your M, did pure water come out first, then the oil next, or was the water mixed in with the oil?
It's above freezing here for the last couple of days, and I drained some of the oil out of the lower rear end, and it came out in a black goupy oil. Any thoughts?

Black and goupy is good, it still need changed though. If it had water in it then it would be brown like a chocolate milk shake!

I think I will uncover the brakes next and see if the bands are seized. I will update you once that is done. Thanks again.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

If it's been sitting outside 10 years the inside of the gear case has been slowly accumulating water from rain, snow, and condensation to a lesser extent. If the tractor is run regularly it will emulsify the oil and water together like mayonnaise, but even that has its limtis and eventually you end up with a pool of water at the bottom of the case. I've bought two tractors over the years that the oil was so waterlogged on I had to keep poking it with a stick to keep it flowing.

It gets cold, and you have a block of ice in the differential housing and/or transmission. Proof positive will be if you pull the drain plug and little to nothing comes out.

If you want to move it now, tent it and run a kerosene heater on the tractor until it melts. Leave the plug open and put a large catch drain underneath it.

 

[Deering]

I was able to free up the outside covers slightly, and this loosened the years of rust caused by condensation. I did this to both sides and was finally able to get the wheels to move. After pulling it home, I removed the brake covers and cleaned out all the rust and brake dust. Just wanted to let you know that the brakes were seized up. I will also remove all the transmission fluid and replace it with new 80/90 gear oil so I can use it year round.
Thank you everyone for helping me out with this. Glad to get it home.