More on 1650

[Jimmydog]

as in: am I a moron for thinking about buying this tractor? He wants a little north of a bone for it. He doesn't know much about it, took it in on trade, looks to have had a hard life. Doesn't run but turns over and he says gets fuel & spark (hmm). Rear tires aren't good but I've seen worse, so maybe get by for a couple years. I know it's kind of silly to try to get an appraisal over the computer like this but what the heck; I don't mind looking a little silly from time to time, I maintain there's a distinction between silly and moronic behavior (just don't ask me what it is).

More importantly, is there any specific things I should be aware of? Things good, bad, or ugly, that they're known for? I can't imagine you could get major pieces like engine block or head these days. Looking at engine rebuild kit cost and tires I could easily be north of what a running used one goes for, and that's if not too much else is wrong with it. I'd really like to have an Oliver in the collection, and this would be a good fit horse power wise for around here....

Anyway if you have an opinion or model specific advice, I'd like to hear it, thanks.
JD

 

[super99]

Tough call!! Ask him to let you do a compression test on it. If it
has good compression, go for it if it’s cheap enough. Parts are
readily available and tons of used parts around. How much is
he asking? Pretty easy to get price of a nice runner in a dead
horse. That said, I’d like to have a 1650. Chris

 

[rrlund]

I don't understand the slang. Is a "bone" $1000 ? If it is, any 1650 gas that's all there is worth that. They'll part out for more than
that. Not to say you wouldn't be better off in the long run paying more for one in better shape.

 

[Jimmydog]

rrlund, I saw your post a while back about you not hanging out on the main chat boards as much, let me say that I'm glad to see you still participate down here in the colored sections. We all know the real work gets done in the colored sections.

Yes a bone equals 1000$, back when I was a pup it meant a hundred now that seems like chicken scratch these days. Anyway thanks for the input, at least if this goes through I won't get stuck under water monetarily.

Hopefully we'll get to meet some day...if I ever get around to attending one of Johnlobb's little get togethers.

Thanks,
JD.

 

[Jimmydog]

Super99, yep I'd have already checked the compression if it weren't for my compression gauge having given up the ghost -figures. As things stand right now I'm not sure how serious he is about selling; I'm wondering if he's just trying to get some pointers on where to check next, or a rough idea of what he's got and what it's really worth. I think he is hoping I'll help him get it going then he can charge more for it. If we can't work out an agreement, I'll let you know. Chicago is about equidistance between us, so a haul -but doable. Anyway, the guy isn't in any hurries, so it'll be a while.

Thanks for the reply,
JD.

 

[scootergmc]

$1000 not running and will run is a lot better than needing a rebuild. If it needs rebuild your time and money would be better off with a runner.

If the hydraulic unit is leaking into the rear end that could be another expensive or cheap fix. Pan, o rings, or pump could all be culprits.

You also don't know the condition of the tranny or the hydraul or two speed. Seized shafts and sprag clutches can get spendy. Major issues in any of those will make you wish you bought a good runner.


Of course if you like a gamble, go for it. I did that with my 1655. If it comes to it and has been said, parting it out could easily recover your $1000. But I think you already hinted as to what your time was worth. Maybe there's a way to find out and talk to the former owner???

 

[Traditional Farmer]

Because I have other Olivers I'd jump on it for anything under $1500,I just sold a basic chasis 1650 to a tractor puller for $800 with everything removed except the steering pedestal,no motor,no hyro,removed all the hydraulic and PTO parts etc.

 

[scarl]

I brought a 1650 gas home earlier this summer and it is one of the handiest and nicest tractors I have ever ran. They are well respected and
easy to work on. You can find good runners for not much money. You may look a round some before you commit. You can easily put more money in
it than it is worth.

 

[J.Wondergem]

Here I thought a BONE would be a T bone steak. Had me thinking you be getting it just North of free.

 

[super99]

Never heard a grand called a bone before!! If it's all there, I'd be there counting out c notes
yesterday!!

 

[gary66]

try and get it running before buying.