Murphy system on 856 IH

[Whit856]

I am wanting to put a murphy shutdown system on my 67 model 856 with a D407 engine. I was wondering if anyone on here has done it before on here. I have some questions that hopefully yall can answer.

 

[wore out]

I am wanting to put a murphy shutdown system on my 67 model 856 with a D407 engine. I was wondering if anyone on here has done it before on here. I have some questions that hopefully yall can answer.

I've owned Versatile tractors and Massey combines with Murphy switches.

The Versatiles with the Cummins engines used the stock fuel solenoid on the fuel pump and shut down instantly, the Masseys used a Murphy solenoid valve installed in the fuel line to the injections pumps, those ran for a short time after safety shutdown.

I'd ASSUME you'd need the external solenoid valve with your 856 (IIRC).

If your project is similar to what was used in that era I can help you.

Or are you into some up-to-date microprocessor stuff?

 

[caterpillar guy]

I can't imagine the complexity of all that to make a good simple tractor complicated unless it was going to be setting at a site running like an irrigation pump or such with nobody around. Then just set up a solenoid with a spring to move the throttle to the off position hooked to an oil pressure switch or temp gauge set up or both.

 

[Whit856]

I was going to install a inline solenoid valve right before the injection pump.My biggest thing is trying to find the best place on the engine preferably in the head to install the capillary tube. I would still like to keep my factory gauge on the dash in use which is on the back right hand side of the head. I was wondering if putting the murphy system capillary tube in where you would put a block heater if it would read just as good as it would if it was in the head.

 

[Janicholson]

Welcome to YT forums and PartsASAP
It might make little difference between instant and a few seconds shut down. My comment is that an indicator light be used to inform the operator that it was shut down by the Murphey system. Jim

 

[used red MN]

I was wondering if putting the murphy system capillary tube in where you would put a block heater if it would read just as good as it would if it was in the head.

Not real familiar with those engines, are you sure there is not another threaded plug in the head? The head is where the most heat builds because that is where the coolant passes through before it exits to the radiator. If you only have the block drain or the original spot for the OEM gauge sender I would put the shutdown gauge in the head and the gauge in the block. Are you using it for stationary PTO work?
Did you get a used system or did you get it new? Murphy website
I am sure I installed more than 50 of these systems in bakery delivery vans when I worked in a bakery transportation garage 25 years ago.

 

[Whit856]

Im going to purchase a brand new murphy box and all,my plan is to pump water out of the river for irrigation or to flood a pond.I really appreciate yalls input.