New tractor

[rodgernbama]

Looking at buying a tractor around 38hp. Been looking at
Kubota and Mahindra. One of the selling point from the
Mahindra salesman is the Kubota has to stop every hour or so
to regen and has an expensive emissions filter to maintain
while the Mahindra engine does not have this. Should this be
a concern. I understand this is some kind of new EPA reg.

 

[rbhuntn]

(quoted from post at 08:10:02 06/02/17) Looking at buying a tractor around 38hp. Been looking at
Kubota and Mahindra. One of the selling point from the
Mahindra salesman is the Kubota has to stop every hour or so
to regen and has an expensive emissions filter to maintain
while the Mahindra engine does not have this. Should this be
a concern. I understand this is some kind of new EPA reg.

My brother bought a new Kubota L3300 and it had to do its first regen at about 12-15 hours. Regen took about 30 minutes.

My Mahindra does now have to do any regen due to the difference in engine exhaust technology.

Kubota is nicer in fit and finish would say by a bit but overall I think the Mahindra is the better tractor having been around a 2014 and a new Kubota's and my 2015 Mahindra.

2014 Kubota L3200 has about 90 hours
2018 Mahindra 4550 has just over 100 hours
2016 Kubota L3300 has about 20 hours

Just my thoughts so take them for what you paid for them.

 

[RBoots]

Ah the benefits of regeneration technology. A couple weeks ago at work, there 8 of us were on a road project and our loader started flashing the regeneration soon warning. It isn't usable while in regeneration. We had a little more to finish, so we tried to get it to run long enough to get it done. It was not to be. It derated and allowed a short period of time to move it before it would shut down. We pulled over in a lot and hit the button to start the regen procedure. Then we all had to wait the 45 minutes for it to finish. What a pain, never had to do that with the old loader we had.

 

[wisbaker]

I'm more worried about support and I think you'll find Kubota has a better support network for their tractors than Maharinda, so do you want to gamble on Mahirinda staying in the US and building up a better network or Kubota maintaining their sales and service network?

And Yes I do realize that Maharinda is an established manufacturer with a long history, but it hasn't been here to long and our scrap yards (and theses pages) are littered with import tractors that didn't quite make the cut and folks that have them are having difficulties with support both technical and logistical (parts and folks that know how to troubleshoot and diagnose them).

 

[Bama Ray]

The regen on my both my John Deere tractors I have on the Farm and the Ford Super Duty, GMC, and the Kenworth Trucks I own and use for my business all regen on there own as you are using them if you keep selector set to automatic..you just keep on doing what you are doing ..Problem come in when selector is set to off on equipment you can select and operator does regen manually

 

[dale r]

I would be concerned about parts availability. I had to replace a fuel tank on a Mahindra and had to get three over a period of 2 months to get one that fit. The first two were built crooked and the holes were way out of alignment. I would go with Kubota.

 

[Texasmark1]

Did you check Branson?

 

[Bob Harvey]

I give up - 'Regen' ???

 

[gene bender]

The big questionis how long has the dealer been selling them. Mahindra has been around here for over 20yrs and has a good dealer network.

 

[RodinNS]

I'd shop around if I were you... I just brokered a deal on two NewHolland's... and the Kubota dealer got owned on them. It wasn't even close. Deere was much closer... to the point that the tractor was cheaper from Deere...
Mahindra... probably wouldn't be my first choice here, but from what I've seen of them, they should be a decent tractor. Some models use Cummins engines, etc. If the deal is right, you get what you want... and you can get service... go for it.

Rod

 

[Dick2]

I want to know what "Regen" is too.

 

[Brendon-KS]

It is the regeneration cycle where diesel fuel is injected into the particulant filter to burn off the soot that has been trapped. It normally is an event that occurs automatically but the operator has the ability to delay it if the machine is in an environment where the extra hot exhaust gas could be a hazard.

 

[jwmfarms]

I'm not sure if that is true or not, but I suspect it is false. I know on a MF compact, the computer monitors the soot build up in the particulate filter, and when it reaches a certain level, it will warn you to start the Regen cycle. Usually, if you are really working it hard, it runs hot enough to burn off on it's own. If you do it manually, you can continue working. No need to stop.

I'd talk to the Kubota rep, and see what he says. If the Mahindra rep is lying about this, you have to ask what else they are lying about.

We were a Mahindra dealer for a short time, at our dealership. We gave it up because we could never get paid for warranty work, and there was plenty of it. Those Mahindra folks would lie to us, and more than once, I saw them lie to a customer's face. They'd promise them the problem would be taken care of, and either fail to follow through, or tell us to fix it and then deny the warranty claim. The Indians were the worst. The felt like you owed them the world for allowing you to sell their junk. We finally told them to pick it all up.

Personally, I'd buy a mule before I'd accept a free Mahindra!

 

[Leroy]

Don't know where you would go to find anything Mahindra but lots of Kubota dealers around

 

[Mtnfarmer]

I pickup and deliver for a mahindra dealer that is close to me
The regen problem with kubotas are very real. I have seen it first hand mahindra has the best system of all and are good built tractors parts are no problem for us If you buy a mahindra make sure the dealer is knowlagable on how to work on them I have seen alot of dealers that sell them and that is it they know nothing about working on them I have attended school on them and learned alot but most dealers do not want to learn about them we fix and stand behind our tractors getting paid for warranty work has been no problem Mahindra has fixed countless problems for us with warranty that I am certain should have been customers problem from just pure abuse. But mahindra says we have best waranty "fix it " send us the bill
Would be my first choice for compact tractor and I am die hard blue

 

[Philip d]

If your picking between those 2 brands personally I would pick the Kubota because of reliability parts/service availability and resale value.

 

[jm.]

First of all let me tell you I am bias since I have been a KUBOTA dealer for over 24 years. He is wrong in telling you that you have to STOP ever hour. Fact is in most instances you will never have to stop . If you are WORKING the tractor and have the regen set to automatic. NOW if you are just loafing the unit around yes in some very rare instances it will as for the regen cycle. Nothing against the Mahindra but do not let the teir 4 engine keep you from buying the KUBOTA. KUBOTA offers superior parts and service in most parts of the country.

 

[Ken Macfarlane]

Nonsense. Don't need to regen at all if you work the tractor. If you just idle around, the every 10 hour burn out cycle is about right.

 

[rustyfarmall]

The whole emmissions thing is nonsense. I refuse to be a part of it. I'll just keep my gasoline powered tractors and trucks.

 

[RodinNS]

I'd speculate that you're about right on that... Under normal full load use it shouldn't need to regen much at all because it will be hot enough to burn clean anyway.
I think the HT570 in one of our fire trucks burns off... perhaps once a year, if that. I know in 6 years it's caught me twice...

Rod

 

[Motorcraftman]

I vote Mahindra... There is Parts available, I get My Parts, form Tomball Tx.. in couple of Days ,, When Needed..... I have an 03 E-350 DI...35HP Runs a Five Ft Bush hog with ease! And Love it... Everything about that tractor is Heavy duty FROM THE FACTORY... Larry in N. Ga