Oil drain plug

[Midwest Tractor Guy]

Anyone have a good experience with these aftermarket oil drain plugs for the 800 series tractors? Reviews on Amazon are mostly not positive, the threads are too short or the gasket is too thick and many report leaks. The image is very similar to the plug from the YT parts store. Thanks.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Anyone have a good experience with these aftermarket oil drain plugs for the 800 series tractors? Reviews on Amazon are mostly not positive, the threads are too short or the gasket is too thick and many report leaks. The image is very similar to the plug from the YT parts store. Thanks.

All parts are aftermarket today. The LINK is to the parts store here? What is wrong with that? Why go to Amazon? Where is your OEM old one? What is wrong with it?The same Oil Drain Plug was used on all FORD TRACTORS, 39-64. Be sure to put a new cork gasket, p/n 8N-6734 on it at installation.

Your Mileage May Vary,
Tim Daley (MI)

 

[MarkB_MI]

I have an aftermarket drain plug on my tractor, purchased from Stein-er but I assume they come from the same foundry in India or China as the YT parts come from. I have no complaints. You might be able to get an OEM plug from CNH; whether the quality is any better I can't say, but you'll certainly pay more for OEM.

 

[redoakroach]

I have a drain plug from YT on my 860 and have had no problems with it.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I have an aftermarket drain plug on my tractor, purchased from Stein-er but I assume they come from the same foundry in India or China as the YT parts come from. I have no complaints. You might be able to get an OEM plug from CNH; whether the quality is any better I can't say, but you'll certainly pay more for OEM.

Myth #2024 - CNH does not make ANY old Ford parts. They stock what everyone else has - made in Cheena. India and Brazil pretty much gone. Some made in Taiwan still.

Your Mileage May Vary,
Tim Daley (MI)

 

[Hobo,NC]

Anyone have a good experience with these aftermarket oil drain plugs for the 800 series tractors? Reviews on Amazon are mostly not positive, the threads are too short or the gasket is too thick and many report leaks. The image is very similar to the plug from the YT parts store. Thanks.

I have never has an issue with new aftermarket Ford tractor drain plugs not to say there can be a problem with some. The gasket is very pacific for the application they are cheap so I have bags of 10. I have never seen a cork gasket for this application maybe I removed one from a used plug but I don't remember it. The gaskets I have came from Tisco/SMA are Sparex.

I am interested in the cork gasket my gourd tells me they may be a better fit. The machining process for the threads leave a void. I would think cork could be made a little smaller then stretched over the threads then fit into the void better. ? If you use a standard issue gasket (not a pizz poor home made cereal box hey look at me I rolled my own) you have to be precise you keep centered on the plug are it will walk on you.

Sunday morning oil plug 101. Yes they are crude little devils no much thought put into the process of making them.

 

[Midwest Tractor Guy]

I have a drain plug from YT on my 860 and have had no problems with it.

I have never has an issue with new aftermarket Ford tractor drain plugs not to say there can be a problem with some. The gasket is very pacific for the application they are cheap so I have bags of 10. I have never seen a cork gasket for this application maybe I removed one from a used plug but I don't remember it. The gaskets I have came from Tisco/SMA are Sparex.

I am interested in the cork gasket my gourd tells me they may be a better fit. The machining process for the threads leave a void. I would think cork could be made a little smaller then stretched over the threads then fit into the void better. ? If you use a standard issue gasket (not a pizz poor home made cereal box hey look at me I rolled my own) you have to be precise you keep centered on the plug are it will walk on you.

Sunday morning oil plug 101. Yes they are crude little devils no much thought put into the process of making them.

Thanks for the reply and info on the gasket.

 

[Midwest Tractor Guy]

I have a drain plug from YT on my 860 and have had no problems with it.

Thanks for the reply, appreciate the info.

 

[Midwest Tractor Guy]

I have an aftermarket drain plug on my tractor, purchased from Stein-er but I assume they come from the same foundry in India or China as the YT parts come from. I have no complaints. You might be able to get an OEM plug from CNH; whether the quality is any better I can't say, but you'll certainly pay more for OEM.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I have never has an issue with new aftermarket Ford tractor drain plugs not to say there can be a problem with some. The gasket is very pacific for the application they are cheap so I have bags of 10. I have never seen a cork gasket for this application maybe I removed one from a used plug but I don't remember it. The gaskets I have came from Tisco/SMA are Sparex.

I am interested in the cork gasket my gourd tells me they may be a better fit. The machining process for the threads leave a void. I would think cork could be made a little smaller then stretched over the threads then fit into the void better. ? If you use a standard issue gasket (not a pizz poor home made cereal box hey look at me I rolled my own) you have to be precise you keep centered on the plug are it will walk on you.

Sunday morning oil plug 101. Yes they are crude little devils no much thought put into the process of making them.

I just like and prefer the OEM Cork Gaskets better. Have had issues with the newer rubber ones leaking.

Tim Daley (MI)

 

[showcrop]

I have never seen a cork gasket on one. They used to be dark gray paper, but the last couple times I have gotten them they were plastic. What ever you get, get extras so that you can put a new one on every time. It gets hard for the next guy to remove it if it is tightened with a six foot pipe to make it seal.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I have never seen a cork gasket on one. They used to be dark gray paper, but the last couple times I have gotten them they were plastic. What ever you get, get extras so that you can put a new one on every time. It gets hard for the next guy to remove it if it is tightened with a six foot pipe to make it seal.

Showman-
I've had paper gaskets and may they have been OEM. No issues with them but I certainly wouldn't use plastic. I've never seen a plastic one but with today's Cheena made junk who knows? The rubber ones seem to pinch and bind and end up leaking. Kudos for mentioning for guys to always ensure the old plug mating surface and the Oil Pan mating surface are free of all old gasket material. The Plug Seat should have a dimpled/serrated surface and often the old material gets trapped on it. The top uses a 1-1/4" SQUARE head. Yep, 6-foot pipe cuz seal fails and so some overtighten. A 2'-3' Pipe will do - : > } ..... only kidding; you don't need one at all. I'd hide every mechanics 6' pipe.

https://www.external_link/FDS246-Oi...MIxoeMidGghQMVD01HAR2sMQwWEAQYASABEgJYVPD_BwE

6' pipe:

Tim Daley (MI)

 

[showcrop]

The one in the vid was apparently not tight. It is probably worth mentioning here now that for one who finds himself in the predicament, that there is a specific YT developed procedure available for removing the impossibly tight drain plug.

 

[Hobo,NC]

Anyone have a good experience with these aftermarket oil drain plugs for the 800 series tractors? Reviews on Amazon are mostly not positive, the threads are too short or the gasket is too thick and many report leaks. The image is very similar to the plug from the YT parts store. Thanks.

I recommend a 100 pack of single edge razor blades and a blade holder the holder can be found at most auto parts stores for a couple bucks so get a hand full. clean both sealing suffices extra clean, Installer error is the probable cause of most issues.

https://www.razorbladeco.com/66-0403-american-line-carbon-steel-duro-edge

 

[Hemmjo]

I really disliked draining the oil with that huge drain plug. Put mine in the lathe then drilled and tapped it for a 1/2" brass pipe plug. Always easy to get out, and not nearly as messy.

 

[Sean in PA]

I really disliked draining the oil with that huge drain plug. Put mine in the lathe then drilled and tapped it for a 1/2" brass pipe plug. Always easy to get out, and not nearly as messy.

Then you might not be getting all of the old oil drained out, which can lead to a layer of sludge in the bottom of the oil pan over time.

 

[Hemmjo]

Then you might not be getting all of the old oil drained out, which can lead to a layer of sludge in the bottom of the oil pan over time.

Point taken, there may be a bit of residual oil in the pan, but not very much. If you are concerned about the remaining oil, you can still remove the large plug to get the last little bit out. The small plug makes it a lot easier to drain oil with no mess.

These tractors were born before detergent type oils were commonly accepted. That is the only reason you have that BIG oil drain plug with the screen. You could clean the screen and reach into the pan to scrape out sludge.

Keep in mind there is really no reason for any engine in use these days to have any amount of sludge. The detergent keeps it in suspension and the filter cleans it out of the oil.

 

[Midwest Tractor Guy]

Point taken, there may be a bit of residual oil in the pan, but not very much. If you are concerned about the remaining oil, you can still remove the large plug to get the last little bit out. The small plug makes it a lot easier to drain oil with no mess.

These tractors were born before detergent type oils were commonly accepted. That is the only reason you have that BIG oil drain plug with the screen. You could clean the screen and reach into the pan to scrape out sludge.

Keep in mind there is really no reason for any engine in use these days to have any amount of sludge. The detergent keeps it in suspension and the filter cleans it out of the oil.

I'm certainly not an oil drain engineer but one would think a slightly smaller exit orifice would also increase velocity and improve the draining process like modern day drain pans. The oversized plug on these older tractors was likely to accommodate the 30wt oil of the day. Just my 2 cents...

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I have never seen a cork gasket on one. They used to be dark gray paper, but the last couple times I have gotten them they were plastic. What ever you get, get extras so that you can put a new one on every time. It gets hard for the next guy to remove it if it is tightened with a six foot pipe to make it seal.

I have never seen a cork gasket on one. They used to be dark gray paper, but the last couple times I have gotten them they were plastic. What ever you get, get extras so that you can put a new one on every time. It gets hard for the next guy to remove it if it is tightened with a six foot pipe to make it seal.

Veteran YT Electrical guru SOUNDGUY made his own paper gaskets out of cereal boxes. Claims they worked better than the originals. I belive you are correct that the gasket was paper not cork. I was thinking of the fuel sediment glass jar.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

I have never seen a cork gasket on one. They used to be dark gray paper, but the last couple times I have gotten them they were plastic. What ever you get, get extras so that you can put a new one on every time. It gets hard for the next guy to remove it if it is tightened with a six foot pipe to make it seal.

Anyone have a good experience with these aftermarket oil drain plugs for the 800 series tractors? Reviews on Amazon are mostly not positive, the threads are too short or the gasket is too thick and many report leaks. The image is very similar to the plug from the YT parts store. Thanks.

One thing to mention, what I always do anyway, with the oil drain plug gasket is to soak in engine oil for 10 minutes or so. Take a clean lid from a mayonnaise jar, top off with clean, fresh engine oil, then place paper gasket in the solution and soak for 15 minutes. Also apply oil to the oil pan seat surface at installation.

On the 2 drain plugs for the hydraulic system repeat only use clean hydraulic oil. Oil Pan Plug has 1-1/4" SQUARE HEAD and the hydraulic drain plugs use an 1-1/16" AF HEX.

OIL PAN DRAIN PLUG GASKET: 8N-6734; 2" ID

HYDRAULIC PUMP & TRANSMISSION HSG DRAIN PLUG: 9N-7010
HYD OIL DRAIN PLUG GASKET: 8N-7011

Threads are the same on all plugs at 2-12 .

Tim Daley (MI)