Oil Filter Conversion Kit

[RollTide]

I have a Ford 3000 diesel (1966 model) tractor and have been thinking about changing out the canister oil filter set up to the spin on type. I have read that doing this reduces the oil capacity by one quart. I also read where some conversion kits purchased did not fit the tractor (they were 1/8th of an inch too big). I have the following questions:

1. Do you recommend making the change to the spin on type?
2. Does the reduced oil capacity effect the engine in any way?
3. If you do recommend the change, where is a good website to buy the correct conversion kit?
4. How do I know which oil filter to use after making the change?

I greatly appreciate any help and advice that you may give.

 

[Ellis Kinney]

Unless you are having a difficult time finding the canister filter, why would you want to? Ellis

 

[JMOR]

"reduces the oil capacity by one quart." To that one, I would say, show me.

 

[wjytexas]

I did one on my NAA, no problem but no change in oil capacity. It is much much easier than the canister given the tight space between the block and steering stuff. I put one on my MF 50 and it leaked no matter what I tried and the filter was hard to find so I went back to the canister. It isn't too difficult to install.

 

[RollTide]

This is copied from Steiner's website. See Note.

Spin-On Oil Filter Conversion Kit

Customer Rating: 5.0 Based on 2 ratings

$39.95

Ford - Fits: all gas / diesel, 1965 - October 1969: 2000 3 cylinder, 2100, 2110 3 cylinder, 2120 3 cylinder, 2300, 2310, 3000, 3100, 3110, 3120, 3190, 3300, 3310, 3330, 4000 3 cylinder, 4000SU, 4100, 4110 3 cylinder, 4190, 4200, 4330, 4340, 5000, 5100, 5190, 5200, 5340; Replaces: Fitting: C5NE6890D, Gasket: D4NN6838A, D8NN6N818AA, Kit: 309825, 309825F, 81804443, Filter: C9NN6714A, E7NN6714AA, 84259320
Ford Industrial - Fits: [ all gas / diesel, 1965 - October 1969: 3400, 3500, 3550, 4400, 4500, 5500 (all Industrial) ]

?5.987" O.D. plate
?Includes new adapter plate, gasket, fitting and ABC007 oil filter.
?Requires 1-5/8" socket to install
Note: Decreases oil capacity by 1 quart.

 

[RollTide]

It is hard to stop it from leaking and seems it would be much easier for future oil changes. I am a rookie and just wanted some opinions.

Thanks.

 

[roaddevil49]

Why wouldn't you?

 

[RollTide]

Thanks WJYTexas.

 

[sotxbill]

Its more like a pint??... and yes, i would convert. No, it does not hurt anything as all newer tractors were converted. Newer hd diesels oils that suspend soot fixed any problems.

 

[wjytexas]

oh yeah, the filter on the NAA is the standard FL1A

 

[RollTide]

Thanks sotxbill.

 

[grayrider]

I changed a 3000 Ford tractor over to the spin on type filter about 15 years ago, I used Motorcraft FL-1A oil filters with it, as a mater of fact, I use the FL-1A filter on several of my tractors, 5000 Ford, 4000 Ford, 4500 Ford, 601 Ford, I buy the motorcraft filters at Walmart

 

[IanC]

If you use the larger spin on filter from a 7000, it is rated 2 qt. OEM p/n 86546609, Wix number 51601.

 

[RollTide]

Thanks for all of the input. I appreciate your help.

 

[Texasmark1]

I bought one off ebay for about $35 for the 3000. The picture didn't show the gasket for the adapter to the engine but it's in the kit. No problem and my Motorcraft FL-1A or Fram PH8A screws right on. On capacity, yes it's less but I let the dip stick set the level.

 

[RollTide]

Thank you Texasmark1. Appreciate your response.

 

[Texasmark1]

Good luck

 

[caterpillar guy]

If you are having trouble with the canister leaking after oil changes, there is something else going on. Not getting the old seal out of the casting groove,deformed canister,brass/copper washer/gasket on the top is worn out. And yes they will wear out after while. Lots depends on how much you tighten the bolt holding it all together. If the canister is a sideways one. It could be easy to get it on crooked so the can edge binds on the casting causing it to be deformed or crush one side of the top end.

 

[ilbdarned]

My Ford 3500 Industrial had a spin on oil filter conversion when I bought it, the manual said it originally held 8 quarts. The dip stick says add at the bottom, then has a hash marked area and the word FULL stamped on the dip stick going up the stick.

I read where people said with the conversion you use 1 quart less, so I put in 7 quarts and the oil on the dip stick went past the hatched area all the way covering the word FULL and this was after starting the engine to fill the new oil filter.
being a Fram PH8A which does not even hold a quart. I am likely going to have to remove the difference in 1 quart minus what my filter holds. Maybe the people using the kit and installing 1 less quart had a higher capacity spin on filter. I just used the PH8a because that was what was on it when I bought it.

My suggestion to people installing this kit, is put in 5 quarts and see if it shows on the dip stick, if it does not add another quart, with most dip sticks, the hatched marked area is 1 quart from the bottom of it to the top ( the operating range) below that is says add. So once you see oil on the stick, if it is not touching the hatched area you are safe to add another quart. If it is showing up in the hatched area, where it is, tells you how much of a quart is left to get it to full.

Don't do like I did following others instructions and now having to remove some of the oil. Overfilling the oil level can cause a leak or foam the oil.

 

[JMOR]

7years past........I bet he has it put to bed by now.