OIl for a Jubilee

[David Wave]

I just bought a Jubilee that has not had an oil change in forever by the looks of the filter.

I have heard talk of problems being created by using detergent oil in these old tractors (I have no idea what is in it right now).

Any thoughts as to what grade to put back in it? It will only be used above freezing temp.

Thanks!

-Dave

 

[DollarBill]

I would use Shell Rotella 15W40.

 

[souNdguy]

I also like 15w40 in mine.

hange the oil it needs it.

you have to looklong and hard to buy non detergent oil.. ir probably has had detergent oil in it before..

soundguy

 

[Bruce (VA)]

"I have heard talk of problems being created by using detergent oil in these old tractors"

Yea, that story has been around for years. Plenty of studies disprove the “stir up the sludge” myths; here is one:

http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#Detergent%20Oil



Pick the weight of the oil by the condition of the engine (oil pressure) & the outside temperature. Many folks use 30w detergent all year. A straight weight oil is probably ok in a hot climate, but you will get excessive engine wear on startup in cold climates. (That’s one reason multi-vis oil was invented) A worn engine is going to need a heavier weight oil to maintain oil pressure at operating speed & temp. Many use 10w30, 15w40 or even 20w50. Some like the newer diesel rated oil because of the additives for the flat tappets & highly recommend Shell Rotella T 15-40 (I'm not convinced that my 2400 rpm N engine needs the same oil as my 65 Mustang did) Anyway, IMHO, use a multi-vis detergent oil. Increase the weight if the engine has low oil pressure. While choosing oil brands & weights are sometimes subjective, the use of detergent vs non-detergent shouldn’t be debatable given the oil available today.
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[David Wave]

Any opinon if using detergent oils can cause a leak?

I have seen at least one anectdote that said that they got lots of oil leaks after switching to detergent.

Thanks,

-Dave

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 20:06:33 04/12/11) Any opinon if using detergent oils can cause a leak?

I have seen at least one anectdote that said that they got lots of oil leaks after switching to detergent.

Thanks,

-Dave

I've seen at least one anecdotal report that someone sailed to close to the edge of the world. If you want a good mix of engineering and anecddotal experience try "Bob is the Oil Guy". You will be far better served.

TOH

 

[souNdguy]

then they had a worn out leaky machine that had alot of plugged leaks.

leaks are made to leak.. or be fixed.. not to worry about oil type.

it's clear you are not fishing for answers from people who know about these machines, but are rather looking for some sort of justification to put in non detergent oil.

Ok.. I give you permission.. put in any engine oil you feel you need. even non detergent. go find that happy spot.. don't listen to the people that own and maintain these tractor day in and out. what do we know anyway.. right?

walmart has your non detergent in sae30w. some lawnmower oil and compressor oil is also 30wnon detergent.

car quest and autozone both carry it.

many shell service stations still carry a old S rated 10w30 oil that has such an old spec on it that you can't use it in anything newer than the late 70's.. that might do ya.

??????? why post the question if you already know what answer you want????

soundguy

 

[gahorN]

Use any good quality auto/truck oil. Ford recommended SAE 30, but if your oil pressure is good when it's hot...it won't hurt to use a multigrade.
Quit listening to anecdotes. :wink:

WalMart SuperTech SAE 30 (cheap) is what got my Jeep to 363,000 miles before some texting-woman doing 70 mph in a motor-hme rear-ended it.
Don't fall for expensive brands. If they meet the warranty requirements for autos...it's good oil regardless of brand. Go for cheap.

 

[David Wave]

All right guys, I am convinced.

I am off to get some detergent oil.

Thanks so much for all your input!

-Dave

 

[souNdguy]

your machine will thank you for it.

soundguy

 

[ffinmich]

How about a good grade of peanut oil, have not seen that suggested by anyone.