Old Bobcat

[thirdrock]

Has anyone ever put a replacement engine in one of these? What would be a fair price to offer for it non running?

 

[urbancase]

When I sold my first skid steer it was a MF 711 had Wisconson motor. Had head problems past what was rebuiltable, he got a new motor and worked in a still using. I wanted a bigger one. Now I like to have a second one on tracks and looked and bid on auctions. They hold there money it seems, unless you get a good deal you save some but close to what you can get one running.

 

[Keith True]

I've had a couple of that family of Bobcats. Ran a 700 for 18 years,and had a 720 for a short while.Bought an 825 like that with a bad engine,but sold it before I got to fixing it.They were all Bobcats first venture into hydrostatic skidsteers.That engine is connected to the hydraulic drive system with a connector shaft,not bolted up to any bellhousing.Line everything up to where it needs to be,and fab your shaft connections.You do have to be careful about using a different engine.Another diesel and you're OK,but if you go to a gas it will be a problem.You can't be running that machine that was made to run the hydros at 2100 with a gas engine turning 3000 or more.Hands down that 825 was the most miserable skidsteer to work on.I like to run them,well balanced,and for garage work or around the yard they beat my 753.You can jump in and out of the old ones,to hook up chains and such.The later ones have your feet in a well,and the bucket piston sticks up in the middle.

 

[old]

Has anyone ever put a replacement engine in one of these? What would be a fair price to offer for it non

 

[Weldon K]

Bobcat is a brand of skid steers and that one is clearly not a Bobcat brand skid steer.

It has Bobcat name on it and Clark name who built it. Why you say it is not a Bobcat? First Bobcat production machines were built by Melroe Manufacturing who partnered with Keller Brothers of Minnesota who designed and built the first loader for their turkey houses.
Then the following.....

• 1969: Clark Equipment Company purchased Melroe Manufacturing.
  

• 1995: Bobcat was sold to Ingersoll Rand.
  
  
• 2007: Doosan, a South Korean equipment manufacturer, acquired Bobcat

 

[Not db4600]

Bobcat is a brand of skid steers and that one is clearly not a Bobcat brand skid steer.

Bwahahahaha!
Must be a OMC then.

 

[old]

Bwahahahaha!
Must be a OMC then.

 

[old]

It has Bobcat name on it and Clark name who built it. Why you say it is not a Bobcat? First Bobcat production machines were built by Melroe Manufacturing who partnered with Keller Brothers of Minnesota who designed and built the first loader for their turkey houses.
Then the following.....

• 1969: Clark Equipment Company purchased Melroe Manufacturing.

• 
  
• 1995: Bobcat was sold to Ingersoll Rand.
  
  
• 
  
• 2007: Doosan, a South Korean equipment manufacturer, acquired Bobcat

Isay what I did because years ago some one jumped me on that sort of thing

 

[Not db4600]

Years ago I asked a question about a skid steer and got the same type of thing so I make sure to let people know. Just like you would not call an Oliver and John Deere etc.

Now my curiosity is up. What was the make of the skid steer you were identifying?

 

[Jim.ME]

Isay what I did because years ago some one jumped me on that sort of thing

It clearly is a Bobcat built when Clark owned them.

Was the one you called a Bobcat one built by one of the four actual owners of the Bobcat brand over the years, or a different brand of skid steer? Your post leads me to believe it was a different brand when you say that sort of thing.

 

[Keith True]

The Bobcat garage here hated to work on those things.They also hated the 700 that I had,but they were glad that I owned it because they knew they would never get asked to fix it.Engine was no problem,take it out and work on it.Those machines were made from the early 70's to the early 80's.The 825 I bought had the Perkins in it,like the one pictured.Just what is wrong with the engine? Has anybody looked at it? Did the owner say the engine actually failed,or got water in it or something? They are not cheap to fix,and are worth a fortune in parts.I sold mine for $2500. to a used tractor jockey.He said it would most likely get parted out.

 

[Not db4600]

It clearly is a Bobcat built when Clark owned them.

Was the one you called a Bobcat one built by one of the four actual owners of the Bobcat brand over the years, or a different brand of skid steer? Your post leads me to believe it was a different brand when you say that sort of thing.

I’m curious if it was the OMC, Mustang, Owatonna, Gehl family.

 

[Jim.ME]

I’m curious if it was the OMC, Mustang, Owatonna, Gehl family.

Time will tell if you find out.

 

[rockcreek4630]

Has anyone ever put a replacement engine in one of these? What would be a fair price to offer for it non running?

Run that engine has no parts available. And replacement engines that size are hard to find. That is way I did this to my gehl with the same engine .

 

[thirdrock]

thanks for the replies

 

[TerryfromSWIowa]

My ex-father-in-law put a Chevette motor in an old Gehl.

 

[Frankmn]

Didn't those have a Perkins diesel? We had an 825 years ago. capable machine for their day. Asv they got worn, they took a good whif of either to get running. I would check parts availability for whichever engine it has. Shoot it with the fluid and see if it fires.

 

[Keith True]

That model Perkins is a very popular engine.Used in dozens of things,chippers,generators,welders,lots of marine uses,my dad had one in a boat.Used in different makes of skidsteers too.I just did one in a New Holland skidsteer,it is a 1980,same vintage as that 825.I took it out,took it apart,and dropped the important parts at the machine shop.They bored it,turned the crank,and it needed two new rods.They did the head with new valves and guides.I get the parts from them,When I picked the block up they handed the box of new parts to me.Bearings,seals,gaskets,pistons and rings,new rods,they got everything I needed except for one part.I wanted a new ring gear,and I got that from the New Holland dealer.I did want a new exhaust manifold,but that was really high priced.That engine only has two exhaust ports,so it was really easy to make a new one with a steel plate and some 2 inch pipe.

 

[ufdaland]

Since we are talking Skidsteer what do you know about the 6th picture in the gallery?

 

[chvet73]

I had a 722 powered by the Ford 1600 “Pinto” engine. That looks similar. I paid $2500 for it with engine apart. But that included a backhoe attachment. Rebuilt the engine and sold it about 8 years ago for $6000. Worked great for my needs.